The facts as I see them....
Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:27 am
ok...a couple of points I want to make here:
1) I am not involved in any scheme or plot with Ryan or TL.
2) Ryan is not involved in any scheme or plot here either...
3) I bought about $1850.00 worth of cigars from TL.
If anyone wants to see a screen capture of my purchases
I believe there is some way to export PayPal info from PayPal.....worst case I can use snag-it and save it as a .jpeg. The majority of payments made to TL were through PayPal; only 2 of them went through amazon payments.
4) Why would I not think that they are real?
I smoked some that he sold me ...I really liked them...they look, smell, feel and taste like cuban cigars to me....my palate cannot be that off.....
5) I really like these cigars.....I am not sending them back for a refund....I believe they are high quality cigars that I will continue to smoke until they are all gone.
6) I made some comments about Ninja and Moki saying that basically they are not experts. I did not mean this in a bad way...but IMO taste is very subjective and there is too much bias regarding this topic right now.
I have bought some cigars from Ninja in the past. Was every single cigar drop dead good...no that would be impossible IMO...the ones that were good were damn good though.
7) The CF comments I made ..I think alot of people feel the way I do.....they just don't want the hassle of the CF police nor the harassment. Lets be honest CF is full of elitists. There is pretentiousness there that is overwhelming at times. Have I made friends there....sure.....are they life long friends......some are yes....most are not. In the end it really is a Cigar Page and thats it.
8] TL has always been very kind and generous to me. I have never heard a bad word in any of his emails. If anything I am the one who went overboard with the
family guy threads. Family guy I apologized for my rudeness...BUT I will never like you and "fuck you" comes to mind when I read your bullshit here.
9) as far as me praising TL...yes I did that due to the fact that he was very kind to me. He was a true gentleman in every single email. I was not shillling for TL...we are all adults here....if the adults here want to buy TL's cigars...they can buy them....because we are all adults......if you think that I am somehow part of some master plan you are wrong...dead wrong.
10) I think its sad that people that praised TL in his traders comments are now bashing him down. I think its sad that on ICC I hear they are bashing both Ryan and myself.
I find it interesting that some people went and smoked TL's cigars...then bought more because they liked them so much.....now these people are in the mob. I don't get it...did their palates all the sudden realize that their fake cuban filter was turned off?
Weird.....for the record I have brought many of TL's cigars out and shared them with friends. These people spent almost 6 years living in Leiden and smoking nothing but weed and cuban cigars. They loved them. Hell I just bought another cohiba 5 pack just last week.
I think that is it....time for the shitstorm !
1) I am not involved in any scheme or plot with Ryan or TL.
2) Ryan is not involved in any scheme or plot here either...
3) I bought about $1850.00 worth of cigars from TL.
If anyone wants to see a screen capture of my purchases
I believe there is some way to export PayPal info from PayPal.....worst case I can use snag-it and save it as a .jpeg. The majority of payments made to TL were through PayPal; only 2 of them went through amazon payments.
4) Why would I not think that they are real?
I smoked some that he sold me ...I really liked them...they look, smell, feel and taste like cuban cigars to me....my palate cannot be that off.....
5) I really like these cigars.....I am not sending them back for a refund....I believe they are high quality cigars that I will continue to smoke until they are all gone.
6) I made some comments about Ninja and Moki saying that basically they are not experts. I did not mean this in a bad way...but IMO taste is very subjective and there is too much bias regarding this topic right now.
I have bought some cigars from Ninja in the past. Was every single cigar drop dead good...no that would be impossible IMO...the ones that were good were damn good though.
7) The CF comments I made ..I think alot of people feel the way I do.....they just don't want the hassle of the CF police nor the harassment. Lets be honest CF is full of elitists. There is pretentiousness there that is overwhelming at times. Have I made friends there....sure.....are they life long friends......some are yes....most are not. In the end it really is a Cigar Page and thats it.
8] TL has always been very kind and generous to me. I have never heard a bad word in any of his emails. If anything I am the one who went overboard with the
family guy threads. Family guy I apologized for my rudeness...BUT I will never like you and "fuck you" comes to mind when I read your bullshit here.
9) as far as me praising TL...yes I did that due to the fact that he was very kind to me. He was a true gentleman in every single email. I was not shillling for TL...we are all adults here....if the adults here want to buy TL's cigars...they can buy them....because we are all adults......if you think that I am somehow part of some master plan you are wrong...dead wrong.
10) I think its sad that people that praised TL in his traders comments are now bashing him down. I think its sad that on ICC I hear they are bashing both Ryan and myself.
I find it interesting that some people went and smoked TL's cigars...then bought more because they liked them so much.....now these people are in the mob. I don't get it...did their palates all the sudden realize that their fake cuban filter was turned off?
Weird.....for the record I have brought many of TL's cigars out and shared them with friends. These people spent almost 6 years living in Leiden and smoking nothing but weed and cuban cigars. They loved them. Hell I just bought another cohiba 5 pack just last week.
I think that is it....time for the shitstorm !