I am sure opinions vary on this subject. What is you expectation or definition of aged stock when it comes to cigars? 3....5.....10 years?
Of course aged stock should carry more value at times. I know people who use a formula for putting a price on their aged stock. Like extra xx% per year over mrsp or what they paid. Do you do that and what kind of value do you place on yours?
Aged stock
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tksamtec
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Re: Aged stock
Brad, to me...
Aged stock is usually 3+ years old
Vintage stock is 10+ years old
Just my opinion. I know some guys who think 1 year is aged.
Aged stock is usually 3+ years old
Vintage stock is 10+ years old
Just my opinion. I know some guys who think 1 year is aged.
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likescarsz28
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Re: Aged stock
I think of "aged" at 5 years plus. As for the premium pay for the age, depends on the cigar. I have quite a few 5 - 10 year old dog rockets (Altadis stuff and the like) and I think they are only worth $1 - $3 each on a good day.
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DBall
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Re: Aged stock
I go by:
recent = 05 years or less
aged= 5-15 years
vintage = 15 years plus
recent = 05 years or less
aged= 5-15 years
vintage = 15 years plus
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mcgoospot
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Re: Aged stock
I guess alot of it depends on the venue. To many newbies here anything with more than a year on it is aged. Most people oon these types of boards do not have collections nor do they have the ability to store cigars to age. As a result they buy new and smoke new. Recently I sold some '08 and '07 stuff as "slightly aged" since that is what it was. It was an opportunity for people to pick up some 4-5 year old stuff at reasonable (the prices muct have been reasonable since they all sold pretty quickly) prices.
It also depends on the cigar. for example, 4 year old CoRos are going at a much greater mark up than four year old Hoyo des dieux. It's about supply and demand. You cannot find aged or vintage Cohibas and so when they go on sale there is a much greater markup than on other stuff. I see 1998 RyJ Churchills selling for $400/box of 25 yet (about 50% above what new ones are selling for) yet 1998 CoRos, P4s, RASS and the like will sell for 2-300% more than their present price.
To me vintage is 1995 and before. That is when Cuba changed the blends and those cigars, to me, are vintage and worth the huge premium. The rest are aged to me degree but will never become vintage.
It also depends on the cigar. for example, 4 year old CoRos are going at a much greater mark up than four year old Hoyo des dieux. It's about supply and demand. You cannot find aged or vintage Cohibas and so when they go on sale there is a much greater markup than on other stuff. I see 1998 RyJ Churchills selling for $400/box of 25 yet (about 50% above what new ones are selling for) yet 1998 CoRos, P4s, RASS and the like will sell for 2-300% more than their present price.
To me vintage is 1995 and before. That is when Cuba changed the blends and those cigars, to me, are vintage and worth the huge premium. The rest are aged to me degree but will never become vintage.
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mk05
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Re: Aged stock
Dan - what do you call cigars from 1940's then, you crusty bassturd. :bounce:
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SRQCigarman
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Re: Aged stock
Very interesting. The vintage statement makes sense.
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aes8
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Re: Aged stock
[quote author=mcgoospot link=topic=14807.msg74222#msg74222 date=1343156600]
I guess alot of it depends on the venue. To many newbies here anything with more than a year on it is aged. Most people on these types of boards do not have collections nor do they have the ability to store cigars to age. As a result they buy new and smoke new. Recently I sold some '08 and '07 stuff as "slightly aged" since that is what it was. It was an opportunity for people to pick up some 4-5 year old stuff at reasonable (the prices must have been reasonable since they all sold pretty quickly) prices.
It also depends on the cigar. for example, 4 year old CoRos are going at a much greater mark up than four year old Hoyo des dieux. It's about supply and demand. You cannot find aged or vintage Cohibas and so when they go on sale there is a much greater markup than on other stuff. I see 1998 RyJ Churchills selling for $400/box of 25 yet (about 50% above what new ones are selling for) yet 1998 CoRos, P4s, RASS and the like will sell for 2-300% more than their present price.
To me vintage is 1995 and before. That is when Cuba changed the blends and those cigars, to me, are vintage and worth the huge premium. [/quote]
^^^^
This
One thing is for sure aged or vintage is not 2010 or even 2008 like some recent posts, just like tatuaje and viejo are not HTF cigars.
I guess alot of it depends on the venue. To many newbies here anything with more than a year on it is aged. Most people on these types of boards do not have collections nor do they have the ability to store cigars to age. As a result they buy new and smoke new. Recently I sold some '08 and '07 stuff as "slightly aged" since that is what it was. It was an opportunity for people to pick up some 4-5 year old stuff at reasonable (the prices must have been reasonable since they all sold pretty quickly) prices.
It also depends on the cigar. for example, 4 year old CoRos are going at a much greater mark up than four year old Hoyo des dieux. It's about supply and demand. You cannot find aged or vintage Cohibas and so when they go on sale there is a much greater markup than on other stuff. I see 1998 RyJ Churchills selling for $400/box of 25 yet (about 50% above what new ones are selling for) yet 1998 CoRos, P4s, RASS and the like will sell for 2-300% more than their present price.
To me vintage is 1995 and before. That is when Cuba changed the blends and those cigars, to me, are vintage and worth the huge premium. [/quote]
^^^^
This
One thing is for sure aged or vintage is not 2010 or even 2008 like some recent posts, just like tatuaje and viejo are not HTF cigars.
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full count
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Re: Aged stock
I might as well chime in with my .02
Recent=Latest
Aged=Older, and then defined by the year
Vintage=superior, from a particular year, harvest. Or classic.
Recent=Latest
Aged=Older, and then defined by the year
Vintage=superior, from a particular year, harvest. Or classic.
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burnem
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Re: Aged stock
[quote author=full count link=topic=14807.msg77767#msg77767 date=1350505028]
I might as well chime in with my .02
Recent=Latest
Aged=Older, and then defined by the year
Vintage=superior, from a particular year, harvest. Or classic.
[/quote]
Huh??
I might as well chime in with my .02
Recent=Latest
Aged=Older, and then defined by the year
Vintage=superior, from a particular year, harvest. Or classic.
[/quote]
Huh??