The facts as I see them....

[MoeCizlak]

[quote author=sigsauer link=topic=9293.msg51151#msg51151 date=1304647541]
I don't think the controversy is over whether they are good cigars or not.  It's over whether they what TL has represented them to be.

seems more like the focus is on finding out TL's identity?
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Don't you think that is important?  If he is misrepresenting himself, it would make sense he is also misrepresenting his cigars.

[gomez]

I'm sickened by the total lack of concern the two of you have for the many people Rama ripped off with his con.  To knowingly continue to back someone who robbed so many victims shows a complete lack of character. Whatever he is paying you for the dick sucking, it isn't worth your self-respect and your dignity.

[sigsauer]

"Don't you think that is important?  If he is misrepresenting himself, it would make sense he is also misrepresenting his cigars."

what's in a name anyway?

I don't believe the cigars to be fake.

[mu mike]

[quote author=GOMEZ link=topic=9293.msg51164#msg51164 date=1304648812]
I'm sickened by the total lack of concern the two of you have for the many people Rama ripped off with his con.  To knowingly continue to back someone who robbed so many victims shows a complete lack of character. Whatever he is paying you for the dick sucking, it isn't worth your self-respect and your dignity.
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Good post Gomez.  And if that ain't worth a dancing banana, I don't know what is!

[mu mike]

[quote author=sigsauer link=topic=9293.msg51165#msg51165 date=1304648883]
what's in a name anyway?

I don't believe the cigars to be fake.
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You're joking, right?

[negncic]

[quote author=sigsauer link=topic=9293.msg51165#msg51165 date=1304648883]
"Don't you think that is important?  If he is misrepresenting himself, it would make sense he is also misrepresenting his cigars."

what's in a name anyway?

I don't believe the cigars to be fake.
[/quote]

It looks like you did in 2003

[url=http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?t=160055#post2345736]http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?t=160055#post2345736[/url]

[sigsauer]

post the proof.

If I am wrong I will be the first to apologize here on this board.

[mu mike]

[quote author=negncic link=topic=9293.msg51168#msg51168 date=1304649241]
It looks like you did in 2003

[url=http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?t=160055#post2345736]http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?t=160055#post2345736[/url]

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:clap:

[DBall]

[quote author=negncic link=topic=9293.msg51168#msg51168 date=1304649241]
It looks like you did in 2003

[url=http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?t=160055#post2345736]http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?t=160055#post2345736[/url]

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That's before he spent nearly 2 grand on em.  If I spent that kind of money, I'd want them to be real too.  And I'm not saying that to be a smartass, either... I'd truly want to believe they were exactly what they were sold as with such an investment in them.

[moki]

For what it's worth, I don't believe I have said anything negative regarding yourself, or Ryan during this entire ordeal.

That said, regardless of what you think of the cigars, are you not the least bit concerned that TL has misrepresented himself?  Or at all concerned that he is strongly tied to a known purveyor of fake Cuban cigars?

Or that he has not been truthful regarding his participation in other cigar boards?