Aged stock

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[quote author=burnem link=topic=14807.msg77824#msg77824 date=1350649064]
Huh??
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Recent=Latest
Aged=Older, and then defined by the year
Vintage=superior, from a particular year, harvest. Classic.

OK. I will elaborate. Please remember, [i]this is just my opinion[/i] .

If you take a recent release i.e the Mummy, I would call that the latest release.
After a year, it would be aged for 1 year.

Most quality cigars are rolled from aged tobacco. Three to seven years is not unheard of.
Once the cigar is rolled does the aging start or does the tobacco go back to square one? When you buy a box of cigars does the aging start from the day you bought that box? How long has the box been in the retailers humidor?(I am talking about most boxes that are bought in B&Ms in the U.S.)
How long have the cigars been stored at the manufacturer? Does that go into the equation?  Without box codes, how can you determine the age of the cigars?
So, to me, aged means the time I have owned the cigars past 1 year.

Vintage, to me, is a classic cigar of superior quality. Not necessarily a specific amount of age.  Usually it is a certain year that the tobacco gods smiled upon us. Although most, if not all, of the vintage cigars that I have enjoyed have had quite a few years of age on them.

So, to the point. "Aged stock", to me, is 1 plus years that I have had the cigars.

Now, if this discussion is about Cuban cigars, with specific box dates and factory codes, never mind......... :laugh:

[jimbobber]

Oh, well [i]that[/i] clearly defines it.  :-\

[Havanaaddict]

To me vintage depends on the brand!!! Lets say Cohiba I would say 95' and earler. but for me vintage is 70's and 80's
Aged again Cohiba's lets say 5 + others I would say 10+
Then there are HTF and Humidor release cigars I put them in another class. I will pay more for them because they are special or unique!!!

[avioli]

[quote author=mcgoospot link=topic=14807.msg74222#msg74222 date=1343156600]
I guess alot of it depends on the venue.  To many newbies here anything with more than a year on it is aged.  Most people oon these types of boards do not have collections nor do they have the ability to store cigars to age.  As a result they buy new and smoke new.  Recently I sold some '08 and '07 stuff as "slightly aged" since that is what it was.  It was an opportunity for people to pick up some 4-5 year old stuff at reasonable (the prices muct have been reasonable since they all sold pretty quickly) prices. 

It also depends on the cigar.  for example, 4 year old CoRos are going at a much greater mark up than four year old Hoyo des dieux.  It's about supply and demand.  You cannot find aged or vintage Cohibas and so when they go on sale there is a much greater markup than on other stuff.  I see 1998 RyJ Churchills selling for $400/box of 25 yet  (about 50% above what new ones are selling for) yet 1998 CoRos, P4s, RASS and the like will sell for 2-300% more than their present price.

To me vintage is 1995 and before.  That is when Cuba changed the blends and those cigars, to me, are vintage and worth the huge premium.  The rest are aged to me degree but will never become vintage.
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Did all the blends change in 1995, or some didnt change till 98 and 99?

[mk05]

starting 97, annual blend tweaks to make the cigars taste right.

[mcgoospot]

[quote author=mk05 link=topic=14807.msg79878#msg79878 date=1355228656]
starting 97, annual blend tweaks to make the cigars taste right.
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Started in 1996-less ligero available due to cigar boom and Cuba's tremendous increase in exportation of cigars.  Has continued to occur since then.  Mid 2003 again a huge change which made cigars more enjoyable ROTT and all but eliminated the ammonia smell ALL cuban cigars used to have at some point in their evolution.  Many believe that this was due to "cooking" or heating the tobacco to eliminate this "sick period" and make them more smokable when young.

[avioli]

[quote author=mcgoospot link=topic=14807.msg79883#msg79883 date=1355242655]
Started in 1996-less ligero available due to cigar boom and Cuba's tremendous increase in exportation of cigars.  Has continued to occur since then.  Mid 2003 again a huge change which made cigars more enjoyable ROTT and all but eliminated the ammonia smell ALL cuban cigars used to have at some point in their evolution.  Many believe that this was due to "cooking" or heating the tobacco to eliminate this "sick period" and make them more smokable when young.
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The Cubans say they been aging filler leaf for 3 years before rolling since 2006.
Is this true, or are they cooking it?

[StrongerSmoke]

I heard that the cuban people say that a cigar looses "it's soul" after 7 years. I also have heard that a "Mature Havana" is 10years or older.

[zmancbr]

[quote author=DBall link=topic=14807.msg74196#msg74196 date=1343130092]
I go by:

recent = 05 years or less
aged= 5-15 years
vintage = 15 years plus
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This is pretty close to what I follow as well!  I don't really considered them aged until that 5 year window.  But each cigar can vary IMO.  Some may be 5 years but taste like freshies.  It's important to test them as they age to get a feel for how they are progressing.

[likescarsz28]

This thread is still going strong?

I am aged, Brad is vintage!  :gotcha: