Gentlemen and BOTLs...

[TripleLigero]

Gentlemen, except a few friends here, I believe I have been a victim of Cyberbullying here, while I have treated every single person here with respect, kindness, and generosity.  Few of you who claimed to be experts, and gave me positive feedback both on me and the authentic cigars you received from me, decided to jump on the bandwagon of angry Hyenas, and believe those, who haven't even smoked a cigar they got from me.  I dare the people who question me to send few of those cigars or boxes to Habanos SA for examination.  For those of you who have to rely on the bandwagon of the Cigar-Mafia to tell you if your cigar is real or fake, I suggest a course in Cuban cigar 101, and believe me when I say this.  It's always shameful somehow for people to say:  "I don't know, that I don't know".  For those of you who know and are pretending not to know, and are just doing this for entertainment, I have three words for you:  Shame On You!
I dare 2 unbiased real experts to come to the table, and try these cigars, and post their reviews with photos.  I will provide and extra cigar of each being tasted, to be dissected; to not only show the method of Entubar being followed within the construction of the cigar, but the quality of the tobacco.  If anyone has even 0.001% and I mean 0.001% (I say this with confidence) doubt about what they bought from me besides the ones that already got a refund, and I have to wait and see if they ship or not, I suggest you contacting me immediately to get a refund on the cigars you have left.  The ones you have smoked, enjoyed, and left positive feedback on does not count.  That's the most unfair thing I have ever seen in my life -- 1 person here asking today to refund them for the cigars they already smoked, enjoyed, and that they left me positive feedback on constantly putting thumbs up, and saying "This stuff rocks!", or "These cigars are legit"... (Yes! I am talking to you!)... I have over 60 positive feedback from various members, and if that's not enough for you, then few of you need two things:
A backbone to decide for yourself, and Cuban Cigar 101 for idiots! (No disrespect to anyone!).  From here on, if you do not want, or don't like the cigars I sent you, and want to join the bad guys, then ship my cigars back, and get a refund.  A cousin of a member here, asked for a refund today, where he hadn't even bought anything from me! How wrong is that? He just thought he can just jump on the bandwagon and make and extra 200.00 dollars.  I have all my emails, and today was the first time he had ever emailed me! He threatened me by saying that he will makeup a fake Money Order, which I have never taken from anyone  here, and post it here to get a refund.  Is that disgusting or what? Need be, I will mention his name, and his cousin's name as well.  Once again, the cigars you have gotten from me are 1000% authentic, and were purchased directly from the factories, and various Havana stores.  The funny thing is that, all the gift cigars I sent out happened to be real, and no one is talking about returning those! Oh really now???!!! Wanna jump on the bandwagon of the mob and play dirty while everbody else is trying to get ahead? Is this the cigar community you are proud of? All the cigars everybody got is fake, but the gifts are real ha???!!! OK!!!! Let it be known gentlemen... I am deeply heart-broken by many, and that's my problem, but from here on if you don't want your cigars (including the ones who bought them and never even smoked 1 of them apparently), just send them back and get your credit, or if you don't want to do that, send them to one of the people I select from here, and if they said they got it, I will refund you and they can send it to me.  Have a great evening gentlemen, Richard

[mbflash80]

all that and still no answers to any of the legitimate questions being raised...answer the questions or go away for good. 

[insight]

Why aren't you addressing any of the questions you have been asked?  Why are you mentioning positive trader feedback when you specifically asked people to give you positive feedback in exchange for cigars they hadn't even smoked yet?  Did you try to trade fake behikes on CF in 2008?  Are you related or associated with CigarAsh, the fake purveyor?  You use a lot of words without saying anything at all.

[family guy]

LMAO, good god you are a blow hard. This could have been resolved by YOU BY: meeting some brothers in person or send some test sticks out to a select group. IMO, you have a lot of other SUFF going on now and do not need the extra attention or people asking more question. This is probally one of many cons you have going on.  Interesting end to this read.

[Smokinfine]

I was going to say the same thing. Richard(or however you are) do you care to answer any of the questions that have come up in the last day? I personally don't believe a word coming out of your mouth but that is just my opinion. Cyberbullying give me a break. You told everyone you found out about OLH from a errand boy. Moki pulls out your post when you started here saying you found this place from a friend on CF(where you claim you have never been). You have zero credibility and you are a flat out liar!

[TripleLigero]

The gentleman who asked for a refund and was never shipped anything just sent me an email, and said it was a confusion, and that I wasn't the person he sent the money order to.  Gentlemen your biggest problem is that you do not respect anyone's privacy, and that's OK.  I never sold any fake Behikes to anyone, and that's nonsense to the max sir! You have me confused with someone else.  If I don't receive the cigars you don't want by latest Tuesday and get your refund only for the ones you are returning , then hold your peace for ever... Be well gentlemen, Richard

[Ninja]

[quote author=TripleLigero link=topic=9285.msg51081#msg51081 date=1304634901]
1. Gentlemen, except a few friends here, I believe I have been a victim of Cyberbullying here, while I have treated every single person here with respect, kindness, and generosity. 

2. I dare the people who question me to send few of those cigars or boxes to Habanos SA for examination. 

3. For those of you who have to rely on the bandwagon of the Cigar-Mafia to tell you if your cigar is real or fake, I suggest a course in Cuban cigar 101, and believe me when I say this.

4. I will provide and extra cigar of each being tasted, to be dissected; to not only show the method of Entubar being followed within the construction of the cigar, but the quality of the tobacco. 
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Rama, (guys stop calling him richard because is not Richard Goren)

You are not Richard Goren so stop portraying yourself as such. Or maybe you want us to continue to believe that your bad writing and grammar is normal for am emmy award winning Hollywood writer.  It is just sad now.

I will address the above points from your long post that answered nothing:

1. LMAO

2. Yes, I will take you up on that. Please send them to me. I should be back on the island within a month or so, and plan to have dinner with a Habanos representative that actuall really works with dignataries and distribution channels such as stores and marketing. I will take them to him and Habanos, and we will damn sure find out. No sweat off my brow. Now lets see if you can put your money were your mouth is.

Also, please autograph the box “Richard Goren” as I am sure since you are him, it will increase the value. AND we can compare that signature to the real Richard Goren. Oh, but wait, you don’t have boxes….darn.

3. If anyone needs a class dude, you do. And this has been shown many times on the other thread. Even as a scammer Rama, you do not know as much about cigars as you think you do.

4. Nope, if this is done it needs to be cigars that have already been shipped out to buyers, so there is no chance of you actually getting your hands on legit smokes and messing up the comparison.

[Smokinfine]

[quote author=TripleLigero link=topic=9285.msg51096#msg51096 date=1304636610]
The gentleman who asked for a refund and was never shipped anything just sent me an email, and said it was a confusion, and that I wasn't the person he sent the money order to.  Gentlemen your biggest problem is that you do not respect anyone's privacy, and that's OK.  I never sold any fake Behikes to anyone, and that's nonsense to the max sir! You have me confused with someone else.  If I don't receive the cigars you don't want by latest Tuesday and get your refund only for the ones you are returning , then hold your peace for ever... Be well gentlemen, Richard
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Still not willing to answer the questions I see. I also could not get that barcode on those Behikes you sold here a while ago to verify on the Habanos S.A. website. The image verification system can be a little tricky but that code didn't work. I can get the boxes I have from vendors with the codes to verify. Do you care to explain that?

[Ninja]

Rama, you should really just answer the questions Moki asked you.

And answer why, as it has been proven without doubt, that you lied about how you found out about this site and ended up here.

Uggg, to bad I have to leave for band practice and then Louisville after. Grrrr. lol

[Smokinfine]

I just did got the barcode to verify. I will admit it when I am wrong. These do appear to be the real deal. You have my apology for that.