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Maxchrono
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Farm rolls customs

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Any good recommendations out there for farm rolls ,that  I can order large quantities other than YG or anybody have any they are interested in selling please dm me
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UBB
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Pole Lock
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Johnny O! is who you seek
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Those aren't farm rolls.
OtotheD63
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[quote author=Pole Lock link=topic=60102.msg225110#msg225110 date=1730725175]
Those aren't farm rolls.
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His WF line are
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His WF line are
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Hmmm. Did not know that.
Johnny-O!
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Some classification needs to be done here. Not sure what everyone considers Farm Rolls but to me they are the cigars that are made in the Pinar-ish region, without molds and sometimes wrapped in Granma newspaper or pages from the phone book. As of today WF and LC use factory leaf cured/processed by factory standards, with molds. After all, no self-respecting Habanero would be caught dead freestyling it with newspapers. It's just not civilized. All joking aside, the newspapers are used to help the cigars hold their form. These style farm rolls have 4 potential mistakes. The ink rubs off on your cigars and you are smoking XYZ ink. The cigars may have varying ring gauges or shape. The farm leaf may have not been fumigated recently so you may have some tagalong friends. Finally, the consumer can't be sure if the leaf has been aged properly so you might have an extended sick period/aging process. The factory leaf and molds reduce any of those possibilities. So if ya'll have a different understanding as to what a farm roll is I would love to hear it. John :beer:
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Some classification needs to be done here. Not sure what everyone considers Farm Rolls but to me they are the cigars that are made in the Pinar-ish region, without molds and sometimes wrapped in Granma newspaper or pages from the phone book. As of today WF and LC use factory leaf cured/processed by factory standards, with molds. After all, no self-respecting Habanero would be caught dead freestyling it with newspapers. It's just not civilized. All joking aside, the newspapers are used to help the cigars hold their form. These style farm rolls have 4 potential mistakes. The ink rubs off on your cigars and you are smoking XYZ ink. The cigars may have varying ring gauges or shape. The farm leaf may have not been fumigated recently so you may have some tagalong friends. Finally, the consumer can't be sure if the leaf has been aged properly so you might have an extended sick period/aging process. The factory leaf and molds reduce any of those possibilities. So if ya'll have a different understanding as to what a farm roll is I would love to hear it. John :beer:
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I think in general, most of us classify “farm rolls” as from farms versus custom rolls being from the shops in Havana. Not sure any of us are as technical as you my friend 😀
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[quote author=OtotheD63 link=topic=60102.msg225117#msg225117 date=1730743436]
I think in general, most of us classify “farm rolls” as from farms versus custom rolls being from the shops in Havana. Not sure any of us are as technical as you my friend 😀
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This tracks.  I was surprised when you suggested WF were made from farm leaf vs factory, but what the hell do I know?  For me, I've always categorized them as farm roll, factory roll, and store/custom roll.
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Hamlet did a master class at FOH in the last year or so when he referenced this. LCDH rollers are given an allotment of leaf that is for the house register. Once that is exhausted any sales are off the books and for the roller and crew. Hamlet spoke of a big event that he rolled in and had a supplier that brought him sick leaf for the event (some refer to it as mogoya). He knew the leaf was sick but went through with the event anyway. He was livid that the leaf was not cured and vowed to never use anything else but factory leaf. So where the leaf comes from has a lot to do with the final product. John :beer:
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