UBB & Catfish = FRAUDS=Get Lost

[tksamtec]

[quote author=leftCoast1963 link=topic=32454.msg138605#msg138605 date=1424802799]
Well thanks for that. Now we know your opinion. Why didn't you start a new thread for that since this is not the right one... different story. Looks like we have a new Deputy...why does this bother you so much?

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You obviously can't read, or didn't read everything... had you done that, you might be more aware that you are the one who fucked up... the 2 issues may be different, but involve the same seller and are related no matter how you look at it.  Its the reason why Hibafan can no longer post here or provide any commentary.

Let me spell it out for you.

Steve (Hibafan) who sold these cigars to UBB, is also DiamondDog and a few other handles here.  Because he has multiple handles (against Wade's rules), he was banned, the Hibafan account was the 2nd or 3rd time he was banned.

Got it now ???

You might want to read a little more before you jump to conclusions the next time.  So, who's the Deputy now, dipshit ?

Do you want people here with multiple handles capable of leaving feedback for others when deals never even happened ?  I can't believe some people don't see an issue with multiple handles on a trading/selling forum.

[burnem]

Multiple accounts are problematic when an unscrupulous seller uses another alias to bolster his sales.  This is done but leaving feedback for sales that never occurred or taking up for the alias in the BZ.  In past days, the second alias would also post in the TSBC thread itself and comment on what great cigars the seller had and what a good guy he was.

That's the back story. Not accusing Hiba of doing that just outlining what happened in the past.  Oh, and then there's this silly little thing called "WADES RULES".

[leftCoast1963]

[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=32454.msg138608#msg138608 date=1424803697]
You obviously can't read, or didn't read everything... had you done that, you might be more aware that you are the one who fucked up... the 2 issues may be different, but involve the same seller and are related no matter how you look at it.  Its the reason why Hibafan can no longer post here or provide any commentary.

Let me spell it out for you.

Steve (Hibafan) who sold these cigars to UBB, is also DiamondDog and a few other handles here.  Because he has multiple handles (against Wade's rules), he was banned, the Hibafan account was the 2nd or 3rd time he was banned.

Got it now ???

You might want to read a little more before you jump to conclusions the next time.  So, who's the Deputy now, dipshit ?

Do you want people here with multiple handles capable of leaving feedback for others when deals never even happened ?  I can't believe some people don't see an issue with multiple handles on a trading/selling forum.

[/quote]I don't need anything spelled out for me but thanks hopalong. Maybe it's you who missed the point so I will spell it out for you.
If there are problems with multiple handles or any other infractions that take place in disregard of Wades rules then Wade will take care of it, as this is his place and he is the person to take that action when he feels it needed. As for little bitches tattling on others who they think should be banned for whatever reason... then my comments stand.
I could care less if you think HibaFan should be banned or if in fact he does get banned... you do the crime you pay the time. I just didn't think your comments were appropriate in the context of that thread, and so invited you to start a new more appropriate thread. Who knows maybe others have something to say on the matter and it deserves a thread of its own?
Let Wade run Wades place, that was my point.

:kissa:

[tksamtec]

[quote author=leftCoast1963 link=topic=32454.msg138645#msg138645 date=1424820535]

I could care less if you think HibaFan should be banned or if in fact he does get banned... you do the crime you pay the time. I just didn't think your comments were appropriate in the context of that thread, and so invited you to start a new more appropriate thread. Who knows maybe others have something to say on the matter and it deserves a thread of its own?
Let Wade run Wades place, that was my point.

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What are they putting in the water out there on the left coast?  Get with the program and read ALL of my posts.

Hibafan is already banned...that's why he cannot comment here.  Wade took care of that, nowhere did I say Wade wasn't running his site properly so quit putting words in my mouth.

All I did was tie Hibafan to another BZ thread, where he was banned again for the same exact rule infraction....is that not relevant to this situation?

[Pole Lock]

As a relative newber on OLH, can I assume that the reason that Steve/HibaFan registered with another user name back in the day (Informed) was to avoid possible retaliation from the scumbag he was trying to warn people about?

[leftCoast1963]

[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=32454.msg138652#msg138652 date=1424823171]
What are they putting in the water out there on the left coast?  Get with the program and read ALL of my posts.

Hibafan is already banned...that's why he cannot comment here.  Wade took care of that, nowhere did I say Wade wasn't running his site properly so quit putting words in my mouth.

All I did was tie Hibafan to another BZ thread, where he was banned again for the same exact rule infraction....is that not relevant to this situation?
[/quote]I have dewd, read them all. It is just that I can't stand it when others push for some form of punishment when they have nothing on the line. Why? Will you feel powerful if your advice gets taken? I don't think we will see eye to eye on this one. I just prefer it when these things are not handled as a spectator sport. Again, let Wade decide.
Also... it isn't the water man.  :nana:

[tksamtec]

[quote author=leftCoast1963 link=topic=32454.msg138682#msg138682 date=1424836803]
I have dewd, read them all. It is just that I can't stand it when others push for some form of punishment when they have nothing on the line. Why? Will you feel powerful if your advice gets taken? I don't think we will see eye to eye on this one. I just prefer it when these things are not handled as a spectator sport. Again, let Wade decide.
Also... it isn't the water man.  :nana:
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Well Doug, when you have something of any value to add to this thread... instead of bashing others for trying to help, please go ahead and do so.  For the 3rd time, I had nothing to do with getting Steve banned and I don't expect anyone to take my advice, even though I didn't even give any... all I did was link in some old threads where Steve was using other handles.

You must be from a time when the internets just didn't exist, and this is just not sinking into your thick skull.

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[leftCoast1963]

[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=32454.msg138695#msg138695 date=1424866392]
Well Doug, when you have something of any value to add to this thread... instead of bashing others for trying to help, please go ahead and do so.  For the 3rd time, I had nothing to do with getting Steve banned and I don't expect anyone to take my advice, even though I didn't even give any... all I did was link in some old threads where Steve was using other handles.

You must be from a time when the internets just didn't exist, and this is just not sinking into your thick skull.
[/quote]This is my last kick at this. I don't have any hard feelings toward you about this matter, just so you know.
As for my adding value to this or any other thread, I will make that decision for myself and will not rely on your opinion of their value, but thanks.
Please don't make me go back over all those posts to find and copy for you all the times you mentioned Hibafan should be banned for multiple accounts. Bringing it up once for information purposes is one thing. You brought it up several times as though you were going to make sure that it got noticed and Wade did something about it. You succeeded. Congratulations.
You seem to think that I have some affinity for Hibafan or something. That is not it. I have never met him and have traded cigars with him once. I feel the same way about anyone here. Problems will come and go here and it is good to look out for one another. However when something keeps getting mentioned over and over it is obvious that you weren't just casually mentioning it, thus, my Deputy comment.
I'm done with this now as we have both had a good chance to explain our positions on this matter and any further discussion is likely to lead only to shots and insults. Not looking to go there with you so I am done with this, as it just isn't really important to me. PEACE