UBB I'll start the thread for you...please proceed

[burnem]

.......and fuck it all and fuck her fucking brat!!!

[Myfirstandlastname]

Yeah... I definitely don't know hibafan, I don't even think we've traded... All I can say (as many others have) is that from my outside point of view, this is a case of a new guy being freaked out by misinformation from less new guys and taking it as fact. If you don't want to listen to anyone else, why post in this thread at all?

The bottom line for me is that I personally have had Cohiba Robustos with 2012 box codes from "infallible" vendors with labels and caps that look like those purchased here. There was even variance within the box itself.

The buyer has dodged the question of how the cigar smoked, the antagonist who had already concluded it was fake is not a neutral third party... And again, regardless of ANY of this, 2 months later the seller has zero responsibility to deal with any this or even respond.

It's so ridiculous it's absurd.

[forgop]

[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=32233.msg138116#msg138116 date=1424289952]
Last I checked respect is not a given. Its earned.


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And easily lost when carrying on with immature discussions that everyone else is tired of seeing. 

[forgop]

[quote author=leftCoast1963 link=topic=32233.msg138128#msg138128 date=1424292477]

WHY DID YOU NOT CHECK THESE STICKS WHEN YOU GOT THEM, AND IF YOU DID WHY NOT COMPLAIN THEN?

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It's kinda like why would you order PGR's from a well respected source, list them for sale "noting" the bands looked a little "off", badmouth said source as suspect, while never notifying said source requesting replacement/refund? 

[Pole Lock]

[quote author=forgop link=topic=32233.msg138154#msg138154 date=1424305701]
It's kinda like why would you order PGR's from a well respected source, list them for sale "noting" the bands looked a little "off", badmouth said source as suspect, while never notifying said source requesting replacement/refund?  
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[leftCoast1963]

[quote author=forgop link=topic=32233.msg137621#msg137621 date=1423955381]
It's pretty cowardly to bring the accusation of fakes in public and when directly asked how it smoked, pull.a bitch move saying "I shared it with others via PM".  
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:finger: :finger: :finger: FROM THE PGR THREADS
[quote author=UBB link=topic=30821.msg130678#msg130678 date=1416946455]
Smoke one.

I recently received a box of PSD4's that were ugly sticks with some shitty applied bands. I picked the ugliest one and lit it up. It was ugly but real.
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[HibaFan]

Hey folks, I am gonna lock the thread down and Fred can PM or email me when he's had a chance to try said cigar and I'll open it back up. Fred just let me know when you want to report something and I'll open the thread back up and read what you have to say, thanks.