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[quote author=BobbyRitz link=topic=10991.msg60187#msg60187 date=1317998106]
Ron,

I hope you work these issues out, to the extent they remain.  It will never bode well for you if you piss people off through mishandling of transactions, etc.  It will only come back to haunt you in threads like this. 

Your mentioning that "people don't know you" is inaccurate.  Regardless of whether they've met you or not, they know your online personality.  They have every right to judge you based on how you act online.  I've seen several sides of you, Ron.  I hope the gracious host I smoked with in NJ is who you are.  But only you and your actions will dictate this.

Best,

Rob


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Rob, thanks for the classy post..

I offered (and the offer will stand forever) to make it right with the people who have acrimony towards our past deals (greg & gary). All others have shown uncontested bias towards me, and i really dont know what to say, or what to do.. what can i do?

Only thing i can do is offer to right any wrongs and move forward. I offered, and if the offer is declined, what should i do?  Seems like people rather be mad..

I don't know, Ron.  Mainly because I don't know the circumstances behind those transactions.  But I will tell you that I've known Greg for several years now and you're the only person I've ever seen him upset with. 

I can't imagine that reasonable people would take time out of their day to bust your balls without reason.  I consider Greg and Bill reasonable.  Treat others like you want to be treated.  Not everyone is going to get along or see eye to eye.  That's life...but make no mistake about it, you are being judged (as am I) with every post.

Best,

Rob

[quote author=BigRon link=topic=10991.msg60188#msg60188 date=1317998461]
Rob, thanks for the classy post..

I offered (and the offer will stand forever) to make it right with the people who have acrimony towards our past deals (greg & gary). All others have shown uncontested bias towards me, and i really dont know what to say, or what to do.. what can i do?

Only thing i can do is offer to right any wrongs and move forward. I offered, and if the offer is declined, what should i do?   Seems like people rather be mad..
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Sometimes it is just smarter to stay quiet instead of stirring the pot.

[quote author=BobbyRitz link=topic=10991.msg60189#msg60189 date=1317998852]
I don't know, Ron.  Mainly because I don't know the circumstances behind those transactions.  But I will tell you that I've known Greg for several years now and you're the only person I've ever seen him upset with. 

I can't imagine that reasonable people would take time out of their day to bust your balls without reason.  I consider Greg and Bill reasonable.  Treat others like you want to be treated.  Not everyone is going to get along or see eye to eye.  That's life...but make no mistake about it, you are being judged (as am I) with every post.

Best,

Rob
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Rob, if what he says is true (please confirm greg), and he didnt recieve a package at all, then he has every right to be upset! and like i said, if that was the case, i love to make it up to him..



BTW, you would be surprised at how much time people take out of their day to send bogus pm's, create fake FS posts, and goad people on.. No names, but im just sayin

[quote author=spivy link=topic=10991.msg60190#msg60190 date=1317999103]
Sometimes it is just smarter to stay quiet instead of stirring the pot.
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Fair enough Ed  :cheers:

I don't know you BigRon, but I learned a lesson a while back that might help.

I did something that pissed my wife off a few years ago. Those that have been married for a long time can confirm this happens. It really was petty but she still couldn't get passed it. I righted the wrong and flew straight as an arrow. I was a great husband that worked hard for my family and spent a lot of time with them.

Every once in a while she would be very upset and bring it up. I would get angry. One day I asked her why she couldn't get past this little thing all those years ago that I felt that I had MORE than made up for.

She told me. I never apologized.

Maybe a heartfelt, private, personal apology would help.

Either that or you are just a fucking douchebag and they will never like you.  :smiley-cool:

[quote author=likescarsz28 link=topic=10991.msg60198#msg60198 date=1318007759]
I don't know you BigRon, but I learned a lesson a while back that might help.

I did something that pissed my wife off a few years ago. Those that have been married for a long time can confirm this happens. It really was petty but she still couldn't get passed it. I righted the wrong and flew straight as an arrow. I was a great husband that worked hard for my family and spent a lot of time with them.

Every once in a while she would be very upset and bring it up. I would get angry. One day I asked her why she couldn't get past this little thing all those years ago that I felt that I had MORE than made up for.

She told me. I never apologized.

Maybe a heartfelt, private, personal apology would help.

Either that or you are just a fucking douchebag and they will never like you.  :smiley-cool:
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Very good advice... and 2 wrongs never make a right either.

If its been documented what was missing from your deal (the extras that were accidentally left out), why not just ship them and be done with this.  I don't think Greg should have to keep reminding you of what they are and what you need to do to make right on your deal (its in the xls file he posted).  So, why not just put it to bed and send him the missing sticks you promised and move on.  He won't bring it up anymore and you will have made right on the deal, and even though there are still some hard feelings about a deal that went awry, at least it will be in the past, and you will have done your best to make it right, even if it took you some time to do the right thing.

I don't know, thats just my advice, for what its worth... I know that continually stirring this pot of shit stew is getting you knowhere quickly and most likely further away from any sort of resolution.  There will always be people you can't completely satisfy, and those who chose to form their own opinions or jump on the local bandwagon, but rectifying the one deal that seems to be a thorn in most people's side would go along way here... I think.

:cheers:

[quote author=BigRon link=topic=10991.msg60177#msg60177 date=1317987680]
wow, look, ALL the SAME guys ganging up to slander me, once again.. i got tired of it at shitty ICC, so i removed myself; only to have you guys dig on me anywhere possible, PM me and badger me, taunt me with fake FS posts, and pretty much say whatever you want to/about me.. well ive had enough.. im glad i flushed something down the pipeline so that all of the people i KNEW had big mouths would sing like the stoolpigeons that you are.
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Ron, please clarify so I'm not mistaking this.  So you are fully admitting writing anti Semitic things to ewipper in an attempt to identify who else he would pass that to?

tksamtec, and likescarsz28, thank you for your replies.. good story too..

i will take your advice,and thanks for being positive.

BTW, Dan.. I guess you say silly things after being called a Fat, Working class retard in random PM? (3 different prejudice's rolled into one). A PM that i didnt start, was not warranted in any way, nor did i want any part of.. But i cant be a victim, right. lol.... BTW, i have jewish family members, and i come from a VERY diverse family, so make no mistake about it, i have no ill-will towards anybody...

and this is the last time im discussing this crap..unless is has to do with cigars, or the people that have felt wronged in the past, i will not reply.. I will move forward by replying/messaging people through PM's.. This BS has gone far enough.

Ahhh send them whats due and throw a CGR in for each and that'll smooth things out ;)