Triple Ligero sells fake HTF cigars

[jadeg001]

I am really confused as to why he is still refunding people. Seems like the worst scam ever.

[TMS]

I know this is pretty much a dead issue at this point, but I was looking through some old posts for something and TL's cigar pics are still on this site if anyone is looking for them:

[url=http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;cat=2]http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;cat=2[/url]

[img]http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/gallery/2171_03_02_11_10_46_04.jpg[/img]

[quote author=moki link=topic=9210.msg51396#msg51396 date=1304709356]
Quoting this because it appears that TL has deleted these two photos from his photo album.  One was a picture of a lancero with a single palm leaf band on it, the other was a picture of one of "his" lanceros with a Cohiba band and a palm leaf band on it.

If anyone archived these photos, please contact me.

In the meantime, I've archived every photo he has up in [url=http://s1181.photobucket.com/albums/x430/rowbyadobe/]his photo album[/url] in anticipation of their deletion.
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[Fuente Fan]

[quote author=lakeside toker link=topic=9210.msg52016#msg52016 date=1305227395]
Sorry randomhero I just have to ask, just an honest question. Why did you say that "simply one of the best BOTLs out there!" about TL , if the cigar band "is pretty far off". Just curious.
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Interesting question

[Fuente Fan]

[quote author=lakeside toker link=topic=9210.msg52030#msg52030 date=1305235131]
Good news. I have learned a lot from this incident. I was always very careful of who I have purchased from on here. I always looked at the feedback sections of sellers. But after this with all the people vouching for TL saying how great he was, I will  not be trusting that any longer. Just have to go with a gut feeling and hope for the best.
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and hoping that common sense comes into play at some time!

[Clampdown]

[quote author=randomhero1090 link=topic=9210.msg52011#msg52011 date=1305224231]
Yes, I have some Montes with mixed bands from that time period.  However, we are talking about ELs.  These things should be perfect.  The printing on my 1966 EL I was gifted is pretty far off.
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The thread may be about EL's, but the comment I quoted seemed to be a generalized statement about all Cohibas, which some think will never leave Cuba if there is any minor flaw.  And that just isnt the case.

[moki]

[quote author=Clampdown link=topic=9210.msg52069#msg52069 date=1305286768]
The thread may be about EL's, but the comment I quoted seemed to be a generalized statement about all Cohibas, which some think will never leave Cuba if there is any minor flaw.  And that just isnt the case.
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Agreed, that's been my experience as well.  Cuba "being Cuba" allows counterfeiters broad latitude to explain away some inconsistencies.

Others are just blatantly obvious.

[randomhero1090]

[quote author=lakeside toker link=topic=9210.msg52016#msg52016 date=1305227395]
Sorry randomhero I just have to ask, just an honest question. Why did you say that "simply one of the best BOTLs out there!" about TL , if the cigar band "is pretty far off". Just curious.
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Because when I got the single stick, I really didn't look at it.  I had nothing vested in it.  But when all of this came out, I took a good look at the band, the printed letting over the embossed lettering doesn't line up.  It's actually pretty far off.

At the time, he was generating a lot of donations for the site and sent me what appeared to be a very rare stick for nothing.  Given all the previous praise, as much as I thought it was odd he had such quantity, I didn't question it.

I owned up to it.  I said in this thread earlier somewhere that I feel like a douchebag for calling this guy a BOTL.

I never bought because of doubt and I regret my comments.  Believe me, I wish I could remove them.

[randomhero1090]

[quote author=Fuente Fan link=topic=9210.msg52054#msg52054 date=1305253753]
Interesting question
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Don't know what else to say.  I feel like a total douche.  As I had doubt, I didn't want to rock-the-boat given all the  :nana: and positive comments going on, as well as all the donations going to Wade.  It seemed that a lot of people bought in.  He sent me a stick because I made a comment that I thought his donations were very generous.

Turns out he is a fake, his cigars are fake and I used the term BOTL on someone who clearly doesn't deserve it.

[Fuente Fan]

It happens!

[randomhero1090]

[quote author=Fuente Fan link=topic=9210.msg52097#msg52097 date=1305308541]
It happens!
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Yes, yes it does.  Lesson learned.  Glad people got refunds, thats for sure.