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[quote author=mcgoospot link=topic=9253.msg50955#msg50955 date=1304614403]
Gomez-you are correct.  The difference is that TG posted things about me as well as other guys that were blatant lies.  When someone attacks my charecter and integrity I attack back, plain and simple.  I do not sell fakes.  I do nort mark up my cigars to make money.  Every single sale I have made here (except for vintage stuff) has been at the same price as the price that my favorite vendor PE sells them for and for what I paid for them, plus priority shipping.  For someone to troll in here and misinform people about these things is wrong.  As I said on a previous post I have been very active on these boards for 14 years.  Check my trader's comments at CW or any other board that I've been a member at.  Except for TG's negative comment he recently placed in my "trader's comments" at this site (without the benefit of a sale or trade) I have never received anything but excellent comments.  TG is a troll trying to stir up trouble.  That is far different from the guys who took their time and effort to track down the info on TL-that was a public service.
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I didn't comment on the validity of your attacks, I commented on the hypocrisy of your comments about the TL threads when you have engaged in much worse behaviour, whether justified or not.  Keep up the venomous personal attacks if you feel you are justified because he claimed you were gouging your BOTL's, but don't do that and then turn around in the next breath and denounce the way the TL thing was handled.  From my perspective, it was handled with class and integrity.

Funny ,I have quoted anything you have sold from PE. You have always been 20-50 dollars higher. Now, if you go way back with PE, you are getting more of a discount than what is stated on the web site. So how are you selling the cigar's for no Profit?

You sold JL No 2 for 175, , then were at the time 140.
You sold CoH Lan 375,, than were 330.
You sold Coh Coresp 325 then 265.

So my statement of you are reselling ciagrs to support you habit is 100% correct. Nothing wrong with that, but don't act like the Robbin Hoods of ciagrs resellers.  You are making a profit.

As for your product being fake, Once again I never said that.
"I wanted to buy over priced or FAKE ciagrs I would be doing a lot here"
You were the part of over priced ciagrs and Richard was the fake.

[quote author=CubanLover link=topic=9253.msg50247#msg50247 date=1304448012]
How many people here are a member of the International Cigar Club forum?

I been reading alot of the forums here and seems to me most of the people accusing members here or question their motives are from the International Cigar Club forum.

A lot of names I see there I see here and are ones to cause issues for the good guys here trying to sell cigars.

I assume the International Cigar Club forum is like the "god" or experts of all marca's and vitoal's for the Cuban cigar world? I can see why I didn't stay on the International Cigar Club forum very long cause I get the indication alot of members there are snobs, pricks, or just down right assholes in the cigar community.
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"I get the indication alot of members there are snobs, pricks, or just down right assholes in the cigar community."

Good read on your part.

As my posting history on this and most sites that I "belong" to will illustrate, I seldom get involved in the drama, and, in fact, don't post much at all. That being said, and addressing only two parts of this thread, here goes:

Re: ICC...I have been a "member" of almost every cigar board on the net (public and private) at one time or another, dating back to ASC and including the predecessor to ICC and [b]IT'S[/b] predecessor. Nowadays I only actively read, nevermind post on, a handful. Experience on each board  (primarily reading literally thousands of threads) that I have joined has allowed me to determine each particular board's "atmosphere", the dynamics of the group as a whole, average level of experience, amount and accuracy of information, commonality of interests with mine, etc. Every board is differerent and I visit each that I now do for different reasons and with varying frequency.

This one is pretty much commerce only...another that I visit daily is as much for the commraderie...another is for the variety of viewpoints, being very "international"...and I visit ICC (and one other) pretty much for information...to give and recieve. Folks may have varying opinions about how "welcoming" ICC is, and they may lump the entire membership into one description (which is stupid IMO), but I haven't found a board with a greater wealth of knowledge.

I would suggest that folks participate where they feel comfortable, but to badmouth a board with broad brushstrokes speaks to the intellegence and character of the accuser more than it says anything about the board.

Secondly...having gained all of the experience that I have on so many boards, and having interacted with the hundreds of smokers that I have, I'd be hardpressed to give a better example than Mike (Mcgoospot) of a man of high knowledge, generosity and integrity. All boards have scumbags, know-it-alls, profiteers, bullies, etc....Mike is none of these.

[quote author=Hutch link=topic=9253.msg52322#msg52322 date=1305567820]
As my posting history on this and most sites that I "belong" to will illustrate, I seldom get involved in the drama, and, in fact, don't post much at all. That being said, and addressing only two parts of this thread, here goes:

Re: ICC...I have been a "member" of almost every cigar board on the net (public and private) at one time or another, dating back to ASC and including the predecessor to ICC and [b]IT'S[/b] predecessor. Nowadays I only actively read, nevermind post on, a handful. Experience on each board  (primarily reading literally thousands of threads) that I have joined has allowed me to determine each particular board's "atmosphere", the dynamics of the group as a whole, average level of experience, amount and accuracy of information, commonality of interests with mine, etc. Every board is differerent and I visit each that I now do for different reasons and with varying frequency.

This one is pretty much commerce only...another that I visit daily is as much for the commraderie...another is for the variety of viewpoints, being very "international"...and I visit ICC (and one other) pretty much for information...to give and recieve. Folks may have varying opinions about how "welcoming" ICC is, and they may lump the entire membership into one description (which is stupid IMO), but I haven't found a board with a greater wealth of knowledge.

I would suggest that folks participate where they feel comfortable, but to badmouth a board with broad brushstrokes speaks to the intellegence and character of the accuser more than it says anything about the board.

Secondly...having gained all of the experience that I have on so many boards, and having interacted with the hundreds of smokers that I have, I'd be hardpressed to give a better example than Mike (Mcgoospot) of a man of high knowledge, generosity and integrity. All boards have scumbags, know-it-alls, profiteers, bullies, etc....Mike is none of these.
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Why thank you very much.  Now tell me who you are so I can send you the $$$ for the good words-LOL

Addy in profile, TIA

[quote author=mcgoospot link=topic=9253.msg52324#msg52324 date=1305569020]
Why thank you very much.  Now tell me who you are so I can send you the $$$ for the good words-LOL
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Anonymity is more fun. Suffice it to say that I played poker with BF before he passed.

[quote author=Hutch link=topic=9253.msg52322#msg52322 date=1305567820]

I would suggest that folks participate where they feel comfortable, but to badmouth a board with broad brushstrokes speaks to the intellegence and character of the accuser more than it says anything about the board.
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Very well said.