I'm a little bit concerned about your Custom GB-Bhk, Papo, Hector, La Corona

[Hutch]

[quote author=forgop link=topic=32820.msg165311#msg165311 date=1475899438]
And if in doubt, the former island resident has to run and try to get info from Rob.  So much for Johnny being in the know apparently. :popcorn:

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Dude ! Step away from the computer. Dallas' ball sack imprint is clearly on your chin. You were already spanked on FOH for pushing your (compensated?) vendetta. This thread died a long overdue death damned near SIX MONTHS AGO, and you felt a need to resurrect it ? Because ? Let it go :horse:

[lakemirror]

[quote author=Hutch link=topic=32820.msg165314#msg165314 date=1475935595]
Dude ! Step away from the computer. Dallas' ball sack imprint is clearly on your chin. You were already spanked on FOH for pushing your (compensated?) vendetta. This thread died a long overdue death damned near [color=red]SIX MONTHS AGO[/color], and you felt a need to resurrect it ? Because ? Let it go :horse:
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18 months by my calendar.  But who's counting?

[Hutch]

[quote author=lakemirror link=topic=32820.msg165984#msg165984 date=1478347885]
18 months by my calendar.  But who's counting?
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Yeah...not good with the bigger #s here  8)

[Johnny-O!]

Well Hutch thought I would clarify something else for you. In my one visit to Club Havana a few years ago there was 100 count Monsdale wheels going out the door that were being taken out by locals. Plenty of them. At that time Jorge was not rolling due to surgery on his arm. It was work related don't remember the details but it was tendon/arthritis. Most likely he was not going to return to work because physically he could not roll anymore. I do not know if he has returned to work there or anywhere else. Also, the gangster that replaced Mons I don't think he had a need for him. That is to say that Jorge would be cutting into his profits because ALL sales were off the books and not an authorized Casa del Habanos product. How do I know this? Because said gangster would not give me a "Factura" or receipt. He even told me that it was my problem how I was going to explain to Cuban customs officials as to why I don't have a receipt. Now, some of you might be bored with these details but it will help you understand Dallas's misconception of reality and why he had to create these fictional rollers. During the Mons administration word was getting back to them that Dallas openly advertising on the internet that he was getting cigars from them. That did not sit well with them at all. So they began to make excuses as to why they couldn't get cigars to him, so he would go away nicely. You see, they did not want heat like Robaina got about 12-15 years ago over a LCDH retailer in Merida, Mexico that he was supplying. That concept Dallas will never understand. Call him gullible, naïve or just a dumb farmboy from Kentucky. Cuba does not practice open advertising and does not appreciate any attention they might be getting from it. So if your money was held up for 6-8 months, some a year those are some of the reasons. His failure of communication, incorrect spreadsheets, and inability to identify the fact that they did not want to roll for him is his own doing. That is why he had to resort to fictional rollers like Mons Jr and others for money spent months previously. I think there is plenty of space for Dallas here and he should continue business as he likes. I'm only giving an explanation for those that can't read between the lines. John :beer:

[dave400]

That's kinda funny bullshit Johnny-0 .  Twice I have been there and bought two wheels of 50, and asked for receipts.  One time they told me I don't need them because Cuban customs doesn't count bundles towards your limit but they have never had a problem giving me a receipt. Gangsters really??  Competition is good embrace it.  I know this is a business for you and a hobby for us but relax.

[Hutch]

LMAO @ one of Dallas' minions calling anyone else's post bullshit. This thread is like a case of hemmeroids.

[dave400]

Hutch you draw weird conclusions. I have never bought anything from Dallas or Johnny O.  Custom rolls are fine if you go there yourself and pay 4 to 7 bucks.  To pay for Dallas to travel Cuba or Johnny O's mystery sticks , imho you are better off buying legit cubans online. 

BTW Hutch I have always thought you were a voice of reason on these forums.

[Hutch]

[quote author=dave400 link=topic=32820.msg166097#msg166097 date=1478804217]
Hutch you draw weird conclusions. I have never bought anything from Dallas or Johnny O.  Custom rolls are fine if you go there yourself and pay 4 to 7 bucks.   To pay for Dallas to travel Cuba or Johnny O's mystery sticks , imho you are better off buying legit cubans online. 

BTW Hutch I have always thought you were a voice of reason on these forums.
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My error then. I mistakenly assumed that you were pro-Dallas. Not really a weird conclusion...just wrong.  :-\ Sorry 'bout that !

[Johnny-O!]

Dave...if you look at Cubas Customs web page, a receipt is required for any amount of cigars that are unbanded/unboxed over 20. For boxes receipts are required after 50. That rule has been in place for a long time. So the folks that sold you the cigars lied to you because those are cigars off the books. The receipt they gave you was probably not a factura, just a general hand written receipt. A factura itemizes each cigar by brand/vitola, amounts and value. Your name, passport number and country of origin are on the facturas. There will be two copies for you, one is turned in at customs when you exit. They will be signed and stamped by customs officials. All LCDH's don't like to freely use facturas as it must match their inventory/register sales. There are many here that can verify my bullshit story as being fact. If you have a suitcase full of cigars and no receipts, regardless of being banded/unbanded you will not leave with them unless you have a lot of help.  But I am sure in your mind your two trips outweigh the time I have spent there. :beer: 

[Ninja]

[quote author=Johnny-O! link=topic=32820.msg166040#msg166040 date=1478539385]
Well Hutch thought I would clarify something else for you. In my one visit to Club Havana a few years ago there was 100 count Monsdale wheels going out the door that were being taken out by locals. Plenty of them. At that time Jorge was not rolling due to surgery on his arm. It was work related don't remember the details but it was tendon/arthritis. Most likely he was not going to return to work because physically he could not roll anymore. I do not know if he has returned to work there or anywhere else. Also, the gangster that replaced Mons I don't think he had a need for him. That is to say that Jorge would be cutting into his profits because ALL sales were off the books and not an authorized Casa del Habanos product. How do I know this? Because said gangster would not give me a "Factura" or receipt. He even told me that it was my problem how I was going to explain to Cuban customs officials as to why I don't have a receipt.
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John, I seriously don't know what your hard on has been about lately...and don't really care.... but I think the whole key to your rant is THE ONE TIME you went to Club Havana. That about sums it up.

Also, if you think that you get an official factura for custom rolled cigars in the stores, then you may know less about custom rolled stuff than I thought. (For any of those traveling down there)

BTW, I have been doing business with that shop, and doing it the exact way they asked me too, since after the first order I placed there. I have a good relationship with the folk there, and although it is not one of my favorite spots to sit and smoke, the people there are good people. Believe me, if there is anyone ignorant of what I do down there, it is you.

Your thoughts and speculations rest on a sandy bed of ignorance with no willingness to seek to understand. Honestly, I've moved on. I have shared everything and I am not responding to nonsense just because you want to pick a fight. As the phrase goes, which I am sure you are familiar with, es tu problema, no es mi problema.

And as I have said before, you (or anyone else) are more than welcome to call me on my cuban cell when you are down on the island, and we can go to Club Havana, and you can buy me a drink to apologize.