Cohiba LE 2014 Robustos Supremos $50 shipped

[chilibean]

Hmmm

[AndyJCL]

To everyone else. I hope that you guys look at the facts before you jump into conclusions. If I were indeed trying to sell fakes it would've been a lot easier for me to just pack up and leave but here I am forced to clear up my name on baseless accusations that anyone with half a brain would see that has no merit. Taps86 made up his mind from the get-go that I was selling fakes and tried really hard to find reasons to prove his point.

I find it noble that he takes the time to look into suspicious sellers to avoid ppl from getting scammed. But the problem here is that he started investigating really hoping to find a seller of fakes that he started to see "weird things".

I replied back to clear things up with on anything that he posted that he found "weird" and he would just go back and try to find something else that looked suspicious.

So this all started because I made a post selling single Cohiba Robustos Supremos for $50 shipped and mentioned that I could do it 5 times. Maybe the post wasn't 100% clear to everyone because I did get a couple of messages from people thinking that I was selling 5 sticks for $50. I sold a couple of single sticks and decided to pair it with the Partagas Seleccion Privada for $110 shipped instead. I edit the first post with "This is done" and created a new one.

According to Taps86, this means that I'm a seller of fake because I edited my post initial post.  ::)

Then he looked at my trader's feedback trying to find some dirt and he ignored the fact that all of my feedback was positive and brought up that I had dealt with CaptainCorojo, therefore I must be a seller of fakes.

I explained to him that I had bought a box of Anejo sharks from him and then goes on to say that "it's weird because he was selling some Sublimes around that time". I then posted a screenshoot of out transaction showing that we were dealing with Sharks and he just never posted anything.

Look, there's nothing wrong with looking into things in order to make sure that everything looks okay and nothings out of the ordinary but it's wrong to look into things HOPING to be able to expose someone because in the end you end up believing it and start to see these "weird" things.

Like I said, if you or anyone that doesn't want the sticks they got from me. Send them back and I'll refund 100% shipping costs included. If you can prove that they're fake. I'll refund 150%. I'm confident that they're real. I will simply not accept the label of seller of fakes.

[bpegler]

Perhaps you could help us by explaining how a "supplier" would have a quantity of pre release LEs?

[Clynch]

I remeasured the cohiba. I originally used an app on my phone to check the gauge, it was wrong, my phone measured it at 54. The cigar does measure 58 RG. That was my main reason to doubt these cigars. I'm not 100% sure are real but I don't have enough evidence to claim these are fake. Sorry to AndyJCL for jumping the gun.


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[tstoner86]

[quote author=AndyJCL link=topic=29415.msg125415#msg125415 date=1411411038]
To everyone else. I hope that you guys look at the facts before you jump into conclusions. If I were indeed trying to sell fakes it would've been a lot easier for me to just pack up and leave but here I am forced to clear up my name on baseless accusations that anyone with half a brain would see that has no merit. Taps86 made up his mind from the get-go that I was selling fakes and tried really hard to find reasons to prove his point.

I find it noble that he takes the time to look into suspicious sellers to avoid ppl from getting scammed. But the problem here is that he started investigating really hoping to find a seller of fakes that he started to see "weird things".

I replied back to clear things up with on anything that he posted that he found "weird" and he would just go back and try to find something else that looked suspicious.

So this all started because I made a post selling single Cohiba Robustos Supremos for $50 shipped and mentioned that I could do it 5 times. Maybe the post wasn't 100% clear to everyone because I did get a couple of messages from people thinking that I was selling 5 sticks for $50. I sold a couple of single sticks and decided to pair it with the Partagas Seleccion Privada for $110 shipped instead. I edit the first post with "This is done" and created a new one.

According to Taps86, this means that I'm a seller of fake because I edited my post initial post.  ::)

Then he looked at my trader's feedback trying to find some dirt and he ignored the fact that all of my feedback was positive and brought up that I had dealt with CaptainCorojo, therefore I must be a seller of fakes.

I explained to him that I had bought a box of Anejo sharks from him and then goes on to say that "it's weird because he was selling some Sublimes around that time". I then posted a screenshoot of out transaction showing that we were dealing with Sharks and he just never posted anything.

Look, there's nothing wrong with looking into things in order to make sure that everything looks okay and nothings out of the ordinary but it's wrong to look into things HOPING to be able to expose someone because in the end you end up believing it and start to see these "weird" things.

Like I said, if you or anyone that doesn't want the sticks they got from me. Send them back and I'll refund 100% shipping costs included. If you can prove that they're fake. I'll refund 150%. I'm confident that they're real. I will simply not accept the label of seller of fakes.
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Sorry Bro, but this is exactly how the triple ligero thing went down. Pre release ELs. The red flags are numerous.

Let me ask. If you were so lucky to secure a few of these sticks why sell them? Did you go through the trouble to secure them through a reputable source or from the Festival? Why wouldn't you want to keep them as you are the first to have them and went through such trouble?

It just doesn't add up. I hope you realize that.

[tstoner86]

[quote author=Clynch link=topic=29415.msg125428#msg125428 date=1411416447]
I remeasured the cohiba. I originally used an app on my phone to check the gauge, it was wrong, my phone measured it at 54. The cigar does measure 58 RG. That was my main reason to doubt these cigars. I'm not 100% sure are real but I don't have enough evidence to claim these are fake. Sorry to AndyJCL for jumping the gun.


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Wow dude. Pretty poor form!

[Clynch]

[quote author=tstoner86 link=topic=29415.msg125430#msg125430 date=1411416644]
Wow dude. Pretty poor form!
[/quote] agreed. I was pissed and was quick to post.


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[CigSid]

I already said these were legit, based on my years of experience. A good friend of mine, who bought some as well, said the same thing I did. So you, by saying these were fake based on an assumption that was incorrect... were calling us liars, and Andy a thief... Next time, get your facts in order before laying out accusations.

[burnem]

[quote author=chilibean link=topic=29415.msg125414#msg125414 date=1411410463]
Hmmm
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No one cares what a thief says!! Hmmm....

[chilibean]

But it sure is hilarious when all the torch bearers look like morons again