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Cigarkid you're acting like you've never done this before and you're learning something new...  You've done 30+ transactions as stated by you.  I'm surprised that you've not insured any of these...  Rule of thumb for me anything over $100 I insure.  You've actually been very lucky not to have lost more $$$.

You got paid for cigars that you sent. You didn't insure the package and the cigars didn't get delivered as verified by the post office. You are responsible for refunding his money. You should have insured the package just for this type of scenario. Because you didn't insure or others on here didn't insure isn't an excuse, as I always insure when its over a certain amount that I am not comfortable absorbing if the package is lost or damaged and I pay the cost to insure, not the buyer. Ignorance doesn't relieve you of responsibility.

It's still on you to make this right no matter what the heck the PO has done wrong.  You should have insured to cover "your" loss but you obviously had a slip in judgement for something that was pricey.  Doesn't excuse the fact that you're essentially taking someones money.  You're telling Brooklyn...  "yes I'm keeping this money and you can't have it even though you did nothing wrong."  Seriously?

No, if you read my post at the top of the page. I tried making it right. I offered him money and cigars.

I have yet to ever receive a package containing cigars that has been insured. If this was a rule on OH, this wouldn't be an issue. Maybe this rule should be put into effect: Any package over $100 needs to be insured.

CigarKid you work right?  Q: You ever here the term "Cover Your Own Ass?"  Well you haven't and you have lost and you need to make this right, period.  Quit dancing around this PM Brooklyn and send him all of his money back and you can be done.

[quote author=CigarKid link=topic=8562.msg46155#msg46155 date=1301528249]
I should have insured it, but that's not a rule on here, more of a common sense type thing. So, that shouldn't be held against me, IMO.
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You keep saying its not a rule here. Are you trying to say here at OLH?
You showed a complete lack of common sense. Sad to say,but I shall hold it against you.

[quote author=CigarKid link=topic=8562.msg46160#msg46160 date=1301528795]
No, if you read my post at the top of the page. I tried making it right. I offered him money and cigars.
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Ok so you didn't make a mistake with the address.  But you didn't provide any backup for the address inside the box, by doing it online, insurance on and on.  You are the only one who had the ability and responsibility to ensure delivery and you failed to do that.

You offered a compromise, the buyer has NO responsibility to accept that compromise.  Just because you offered and he declined it doesn't mean you get to keep his money.  It just doesn't work that way.  Sorry.

[quote author=Gee-Man link=topic=8562.msg46164#msg46164 date=1301529202]
You keep saying its not a rule here. Are you trying to say here at OLH?
You showed a complete lack of common sense. Sad to say,but I shall hold it against you.
[/quote]Now that I think back, yes I should have insured it. Just wasn't thinking of the possibility of it being lost. I'm saying, here on OH, it should be made a rule to insure $100+ packages from now on. It wouldn't be a bad idea, problems like this would be resolved a lot easier, was my point.

[quote author=kydsid link=topic=8562.msg46166#msg46166 date=1301529256]

Ok so you didn't make a mistake with the address.  But you didn't provide any backup for the address inside the box, by doing it online, insurance on and on.  You are the only one who had the ability and responsibility to ensure delivery and you failed to do that.

You offered a compromise, the buyer has NO responsibility to accept that compromise.  Just because you offered and he declined it doesn't mean you get to keep his money.  It just doesn't work that way.  Sorry.
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So, basically, because the PO fudged up, it's my responsibility to be out of the cigars and 100% of the funds? Because I didn't insure a box I didn't have to? Should I have, yes, but it wasn't a rule, so I don't feel that should be held against me, because no one else I've bought off insures there packages for that reason. If it was a rule, there would be less issues, like this one. So why isn't it made a rule?