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[quote author=MoeCizlak link=topic=8445.msg45432#msg45432 date=1301014356]
You would mock someone who might be looking out for your best interests?  I don't get that.  If you could lend a hand to someone, would you?  For those that keep close tabs on pricing and will speak up when something is not kosher, I look at that as lending a hand.  Be it to a stranger or to a close buddy.  I can't see how that could possibly be bad.
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I don't think anyone on a cigar board can claim being uninformed for paying more for cigars or anything else when they should do their own homework.  Maybe I take it for granted that people actually research what they can buy any given product for at a local B&M or any online retailer.  I worked in procurement for 10+ years, but I don't owe you or anyone else a "heads up" that some "gouger" is listing a box of cigars for $25 or $200 more than you *think* they are worth.  I look at the B/S/T board every day, often multiple times a day.  If I see something I'm interested in at a price I've determined it's worth in my book, I'll buy.  If I think the seller's price is too high, I move on and more power to the seller if he gets someone else to buy it at that price.  Now if you find something that catches your eye, but you feel the price is high and you send a PM to the seller what you'd be willing to pay, I don't fault you for that either.  

Take the devil sites for example.  You see people will go on there and get in a frenzy and bid more for something than they could buy it for from a number of the lower cost online retailers.  Does it pain you that you can't email them to tell them the error of their ways or just laugh at them for being stupid?  Google is your friend and if you're not smart enough to shop around, we don't need someone feeling as though they're the Paul Blart of protecting someone else from themselves.  

Another favorite story of mine-my favorite college football team was pretty decent a few years ago and would pull in fans from other teams willing to pay 3-4+ times face value.  Mind you, season ticket sales were offered and then available single game tickets were made available to ANYONE who wanted to buy them.  Low and behold, we had a nationally televised game between 2 teams ranked in the top 10 at the time I believe.  I found out that the ticket office offered "obstructed view" seats that were literally 40 rows up at midfield.  There really was no obstruction that I could see as I sat in them myself.  I listed them on ebay and was selling $40 face value tickets for almost $200 each only to have "home team fans" complain about prices when they had every freaking chance to buy them.  Never mind they didn't want to pay that early in the season when it didn't appear to be a prime game, so why should I feel sorry for them for being lazy?  Go ahead and call me a gouger, but I must have banked over $2k that fall reselling tickets to a handful of games when they had every opportunity to buy them before me.  

Capitalism and laws of supply and demand-they're pretty basic concepts really.  

[quote author=MoeCizlak link=topic=8445.msg45437#msg45437 date=1301018767]
No, I don't need a crossing guard, literally or metaphorically.  I've got a decent grip on ballpark pricing.  But if someone newer to cigars is saved some grief because someone started a thread in the BZ about someone charging 2x or 3x, I don't see how that could be construed as a bad thing. 
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We are on the same page. The BZ is what that is for, not the for sale thread.

forgop,

Nice analogy.  BTW, what college team are you talking about - just curious?

I wonder how many here rant and rave, with the same level of zeal, about ticket scalping?  (Simply a guess on my part, but I'd bet the needle on the "HYPOCRITE" meter would be buried.)

[quote author=ninersfan link=topic=8445.msg45445#msg45445 date=1301020998]
forgop,

Nice analogy.  BTW, what college team are you talking about - just curious?

I wonder how many here rant and rave, with the same level of zeal, about ticket scalping?  (Simply a guess on my part, but I'd bet the needle on the "HYPOCRITE" meter would be buried.)
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Purdue believe it or not.  Notre Dame and Ohio State fans are suckers.  :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

[quote author=forgop link=topic=8445.msg45450#msg45450 date=1301022337]
Purdue believe it or not.  Notre Dame and Ohio State fans are suckers.   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Nice.  The Boiler-Makers and Northwestern are the only two teams in the BIG-CAN'T-COUNT worth following, IMO.  It's just a matter of time before Tressel gets tOSU the "Death Penalty" and the freshman Calculus requirement at ND has ruined their title prospects from here to eternity.  The addition of Nebraska should provide some entertainment though.

Wade;  by the way, what the HELL is up with the "Corona Gorda" in your tag??  :o

forgop and ninersfan: you two should get a room. damned thread-jackers.  :)

OK, my "real, intended" comment is in response to a portion of forgop's: "Go ahead and call me a gouger, but I must have banked over $2k that fall reselling tickets to a handful of games when they had every opportunity to buy them before me."

That, in itself, explains, in my opinion, the basis for the difference of opinion on the subject at hand. I, for one, could never be a successful capitalist as my parents never let us play marbles "for keepsies"; we were taught to always play "for funsies" and, if we came home with more marbles than we left home with that day, we had to go give them back; if we came home with fewer than we left with then we were not allowed to play marbles with those gouging, capitalistic, scumbag marble-shooters ever again. Market correction generally keeps capitalism in line, but when manipulative influences are heavily interjected, then the fallout tends to be socialistic or even rebellious in nature, until a "fair market policy" is once again the accepted norm.

Good morning!

So Jim has lost his marbles, and a couple of guys are playing football, the rest seem to be in agreement with the guy who is giving away fake (only because they do not really exist) Cohibas then?

And I have a fresh pot of coffee in the kitchen for all of you - sorry Wade, it is Toronto stuff, not yours.

Hey, carry on my Brothers...

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCP2YV6Jge0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCP2YV6Jge0[/url]

CB

Cozy:  Sorry, should have made it clear early on I was talking about the BZ.  Doing otherwise would be against the rules here and I wouldn't advocate that.

forgop:  I guess the "different strokes for different folks" idiom would be applicable here.  I view cigars as a hobby and an opportunity to share time with buddies.  To think that everyone shares that view would be extremely naive of me.  It would also be naive of me to think that I can save everyone looking to buy cigars from paying too high of a price.  I'm too new here to be doing that, imo, but on my home board if I did so and somebody thought it was a price they are willing to pay and went ahead with the transaction, I wouldn't lose any sleep.  I did what I could and that's enough for me.

You have a nice singing voice CB, but I would all the bling is a little much for the North Woods.  :laugh: