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[quote author=jadeg001 link=topic=9285.msg51196#msg51196 date=1304651206]
Anyone else think Richard Goren was kind of an odd choice of an alias?
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No. Not if the real one has some kind of location or maildrop in the same building/facility.

If items come in with that name and are confiscated...they would be addressed to soeone else...in the same building. Just a patsy!

This should link things fairly conclusively?

1) [url=http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/84407/los_angeles_ca/cigar_a_rama.html]http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/84407/los_angeles_ca/cigar_a_rama.html[/url]

2) ->

[url=http://www.tradekey.com/ks-cuban-cigars/]http://www.tradekey.com/ks-cuban-cigars/[/url]

Ramacorpc Inc
We are selling Cuban Cigars, Tobacco Products
Contact Person: Rama Morovati
Address: 11729 barrington court, california, 90049
Los Angeles, USA
+00-310-8018821

3) ->

besar:~ andrew$ whois rowbygoren.com

Registrant:
  Rowby Goren
  11729 Barrington Court
  Los Angeles, California 90049
  United States

  Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. ([url=http://www.godaddy.com]http://www.godaddy.com[/url])
  Domain Name: ROWBYGOREN.COM
      Created on: 16-Nov-05
      Expires on: 16-Nov-12
      Last Updated on: 17-Nov-10

  Administrative Contact:
      Goren, Rowby  [email protected]
      11729 Barrington Court
      Los Angeles, California 90049
      United States
      (310) 472-0303

  Technical Contact:
      Goren, Rowby  [email protected]
      11729 Barrington Court
      Los Angeles, California 90049
      United States
      (310) 472-0303

4) Rama Morovati = CigarAsh on ICC, known purveyor of fake Cuban cigars.

5) [email protected] is TL's email and PP address

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=9285.msg51179#msg51179 date=1304649919] 

..even if you hate me....
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Ryan I don't think folks hate you and everyone has made mistakes ..... Some in the stock market, a job choice, fake cigars..... Heck I've made all three of those before.  As long as yer straight up yourself good friends will stick by you.

If you ever get out to No-California I'll be the first to invite you to my home to smoke from my humi an drink from my little scotch collection.  You seem like a good guy that got duped.  It happens to all of us yours was just more public than some

[quote author=moki link=topic=9285.msg51202#msg51202 date=1304652012]
This should link things fairly conclusively?

1) [url=http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/84407/los_angeles_ca/cigar_a_rama.html]http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/84407/los_angeles_ca/cigar_a_rama.html[/url]

2) ->

Ramacorpc Inc
We are selling Cuban Cigars, Tobacco Products
Contact Person: Rama Morovati
Address: 11729 barrington court, california, 90049
Los Angeles, USA
+00-310-8018821

3) ->

besar:~ andrew$ whois rowbygoren.com

Registrant:
   Rowby Goren
   11729 Barrington Court
   Los Angeles, California 90049
   United States

   Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. ([url=http://www.godaddy.com]http://www.godaddy.com[/url])
   Domain Name: ROWBYGOREN.COM
      Created on: 16-Nov-05
      Expires on: 16-Nov-12
      Last Updated on: 17-Nov-10

   Administrative Contact:
      Goren, Rowby  [email protected]
      11729 Barrington Court
      Los Angeles, California 90049
      United States
      (310) 472-0303

   Technical Contact:
      Goren, Rowby  [email protected]
      11729 Barrington Court
      Los Angeles, California 90049
      United States
      (310) 472-0303

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Nice Andrew, that is the money shot.

Man....my posts keep getting lost!  I'll try this again...

1)....the cigars could be a mix of both real and fake.  If fake...I enjoy em.  Will I buy em again...Fuck no.  Richard is clearly not Richard.

2)  i work with a lot of smart scientist mofos of whom English is a 2nd language....they write how they speak.  I have noticed this trend w/ TL (Richard).  A friend of mine has spoken to him and claimed he definitley had an accent...most likely middle eastern.  I've given him my number but never spoke to him.  

3)  I imagine it's not that hard to pretend to be a rather successful but obscure person such as Rowby G.  I fell for it for sure.  Who impersonates that dude?  Yeah..I got duped w/out question.  I can't think of anything I would have done differently.  It's a wtf moment.  

4)  Sig (Tom) I DO KNOW...and he is a great guy.  Leave him the fuck alone.  Fuck w/ me all you like...but Sig has been around much longer than I, and his rep should preceed him.  He is a great guy, and I'm proud to know him and call him a friend.

5)  Ninja and Moki are like NCIS...they nailed this shit like pros.  No two ways about it.  Gave "Richard" every damn chance possible...and probably are behind Seal Team 6 for the love of God!  

6)  StarDogg, Chenvt (Dan), and Cakebread (Adam) from ICC can go fuck themselves for talking nice one day and talking shit in their bitch chat room on ICC (and I got banned for lack of class???  get the fuck out!?).  Let that be known of these fucking cowards....I personally probably spent a grand or so w/ Dan...only to have that fairweather fuck turn into a two faced prick.  Fucking General Hospital right here...just "chat" with em.  :)

7)  I lack class by ICC standards...this is clear and I accept it.  I would however, like to apologize to Mike S...I don't know him...didn't like his accusatory comments, but shouldn't have joked around about his wife (don't know him and don't know if he has one...still childish...my bad).

8)  If I sold you a cigar that is now in question...as stated before...you get a full refund.  I made 500 bucks (not profit)...but spent that on other sticks.  I've talked to 4 folks I've sold too.  I refunded one guy who asked for it...the others did not..still the offer stands.  

9)  Cigars are one of the few things I'm very passionate about....even with all my silly routines and tetris stacking....I never thought people would be so fickle in this arena....damn good to know now.

10)  Any questions..just holler...most of you have my number...if you want it out in the open just ask and I will answer.  

11)  In case I forgot...I want Chenvt, Stardogg, and Cakebread to feel free to fuck themselves.

12)  Please DO NOT delete the praise threads for Richard....that shit is priceless.  Half the pricks who "protest too much," and talk shit praise Richard and his great cigars and access to the ultimate HTF's.  

13)  I wouldn't ask Wade to take any money from TL and try to make anyone "whole."  We're all adults here....I hold he takes the donations and buys a fucking Rolex.  I love the guy's approach and free market attitude.

And that's what's up!

Ryan

And we have a new phone number:

[url=http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/apa/2350572278.html]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/apa/2350572278.html[/url]

1 bedroom 1 bath house in the heart of Sherman Oaks, with hardwood floors, living room, dining area, front yard, backyard, central air and heat, laundry room, close to Whole Foods and all major FWYs, great street, cozy and unique. Small pet is OK. Please contact Ray at 310-801-8821

Greenleaf at Noble and Kester (google map) (yahoo map)

And email:
[url=http://www.maryamghazi.com/index.php?page=shop.infopage&vendor_id=1&output=lite&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1]http://www.maryamghazi.com/index.php?page=shop.infopage&vendor_id=1&output=lite&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1[/url]

[email protected]

And a nice one from smokecheckl!
[url=http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?p=3233871]http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?p=3233871[/url]

'stogielover'
[url=http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?p=3508311&highlight=ramamorovati%40msn#post3508311]http://lounge.cigarfamily.com/showthread.php?p=3508311&highlight=ramamorovati%40msn#post3508311[/url]

[quote author=Ryan link=topic=9285.msg51211#msg51211 date=1304653310]
5)  Ninja and Moki are like NCIS...they nailed this shit like pros.  No two ways about it.  Gave "Richard" every damn chance possible...and probably are behind Seal Team 6 for the love of God!  
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I'd just like to note that Insight, Grateful1, and numerous others have all been instrumental here.  A bunch of people sharing information is what really helps in these situations.

Ryan, yes you lack class. Did you create another account and proceed to threaten members in the chatroom?

[quote author=moki link=topic=9285.msg51217#msg51217 date=1304653941]
I'd just like to note that Insight, Grateful1, and numerous others have all been instrumental here.  A bunch of people sharing information is what really helps in these situations.
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Yeah thats right, I want my gd dancing banana

BobbyRitz...first off I don't know you..BUT
IMO
Ryan is a stand up no bullshit guy...
I respect his approach towards backstabbers....
what the definition of a friend at CF or OLH?
Someone who looks me right in eye and stabs me in the chest...

say what you want about me....if Ryan flew off the handle somewhere...it was warranted...