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All Pete is doing is smart marketing.  It's basically a copy of what Habanos has done with LEs and REs.  And just like with Cuban LEs and REs you need to filter the ones that are good and the ones that are crap.  There are plenty of good cigars out there for different people's tastes. 

If you can't get it or aren't willing to pay, so be it.  There are hundreds of different cigars out there, I'm sure people can find a suitable replacement.

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Bill,

I appreciate your reasoned response and you certainly raise some valid points and questions.  I won't try and justify or rationalize Pete's motives when it comes to LE's.  There sure seems to have been a rash of them recently and, at times, I also chuckle and shake my head.

Here, though, are two reasons, as to why I think we've seen so many of these lately:

1.) It is my understanding that any of his dealers, especially his higher volume ones, can "commission" an LE.  (All it takes is cash.)  This should be evident by the number of single-store LE's that have appeared lately - SODO, CMF5, Barclay-Rex 100th, Federal 90th (both wrappers), Anarchy, NHC (both wrappers), Black PL, and the list goes on.  I doubt highly that any of these sticks would have appeared otherwise, unless those respective B&M's had not shelled out the money to make them a reality.  To drive this point home, even a Tat dealer in Germany has had an LE made - Gran Cojonu wrapped in CT Broadleaf, so go figure.  Regardless of what some may think, we will probably see more of these as this is an appealing concept to a lot of B&M owners.

2.) The other reason you see some Tat LE's is due to trademark registration.  For whatever reason(s), Pete has applied for trademark protection on several names/words.  I am not a lawyer of any sort but, I believe that once you file a trademark, you have a finite amount of time to produce an idea or product with that image, name, etc.  Examples of this would be Holts HCS, the very recent Tattoo, and the upcoming Fausto Avion.

Anyway, these are two explanations as to why I think the Tat LE train seems to be running full-speed ahead.  As with anything "cigar", your preferences and tastes may vary.

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And the Tat drama still rolls on. I love you idiots. Just because I hate the brand and say something in Battle Zone the Tat retards come to the rescue. I am so sorry if I hurt your little feelings over this way overpriced crappy cigar. Keep it coming losers.

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Jesus dude, bitter much?  The bulk of your posts seem to relate back to your personal disdain for Tatuaje as a brand.  You come across as someone who is bitter at the fact that you can't participate to the degree that others can.  I suspect that this primarily due to a lack of financial resources on your part, so you take the easy, cop-out way of bashing the brand and chalking things up to "drama" and "kool-aid".  That's the typical proletariat response.  You lack the monetary means to enjoy these smokes, so you're going to make sure that nobody should give them the time-of-day.  "Yes", you say, "Tatuaje is the root of all evil in the cigar world and should be crucified at any given opportunity."  Give me a fucking break and spare us all . . .

(And Yes, for the record, I just turned this into a class warfare issue.)
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Now I have to add SHALLOW DRAMA. You know nothing of me or my finances. For you to come on here and make yourself so self important by trying to flaunt your wealth is by no means a true BOTL. Yours is the first post I have ever seen from anyone on any forum flaunting money such as you have.   Truly a classless post. Since you are so wealthy and have no class it is no wonder that you have to buy these way overpriced crappy cigars just so you can have freinds to talk to or smoke with just  "to be in the know".

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THANK YOU.....all of his posts are either giving a welcome or Tat bashing. Yet the cubans he likes I would flush.
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Another classless jerk. Reads a few magazines buys a few smokes and is a know it all of the world of cigars. What a true classless jerk. Probably another self important idiot who has no friends and has to try to prove that he is the man when it comes to cigars. Some people who have more post then others think that what they post about is so important. I may not have a lot of post because I want to learn and do not act like I know it all like some jerks.

For Chrissakes, dude.  How much more hypocritical can you be?  Bashing a brand at any (usually manufactured) opportunity you can is hardly being a true BOTL.  Posting your dislike for Tatuaje once so it's on the record is fine - no problems there.  But your pattern of behavior here is, seemingly, one of trolling for any thread that mentions the brand and then posting a litany of disparaging remarks.  So very classy.  A genuine BOTL would subscribe to the " . . . smoke what you like, like what you smoke . . ." philosophy.  Instead, you constantly seek approval/attention by shitting all over Tatuaje, the brands' proprietor, and the folks who happen to enjoy the sticks.  This "look at me, look at me - I'll save you from drinking the Tat Kool-Aid" approach comes across as so, to use your term, "self-important".

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Jesus dude, bitter much?  The bulk of your posts seem to relate back to your personal disdain for Tatuaje as a brand.  You come across as someone who is bitter at the fact that you can't participate to the degree that others can.  I suspect that this primarily due to a lack of financial resources on your part, so you take the easy, cop-out way of bashing the brand and chalking things up to "drama" and "kool-aid".  That's the typical proletariat response.  You lack the monetary means to enjoy these smokes, so you're going to make sure that nobody should give them the time-of-day.  "Yes", you say, "Tatuaje is the root of all evil in the cigar world and should be crucified at any given opportunity."  Give me a fucking break and spare us all . . .

(And Yes, for the record, I just turned this into a class warfare issue.)
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Now I have to add SHALLOW DRAMA. You know nothing of me or my finances. For you to come on here and make yourself so self important by trying to flaunt your wealth is by no means a true BOTL. Yours is the first post I have ever seen from anyone on any forum flaunting money such as you have.   Truly a classless post. Since you are so wealthy and have no class it is no wonder that you have to buy these way overpriced crappy cigars just so you can have freinds to talk to or smoke with just  "to be in the know".
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For Chrissakes, dude.  How much more hypocritical can you be?  Bashing a brand at any (usually manufactured) opportunity you can is hardly being a true BOTL.  Posting your dislike for Tatuaje once so it's on the record is fine - no problems there.  But your pattern of behavior here is, seemingly, one of trolling for any thread that mentions the brand and then posting a litany of disparaging remarks.  So very classy.  A genuine BOTL would subscribe to the " . . . smoke what you like, like what you smoke . . ." philosophy.  Instead, you constantly seek approval/attention by shitting all over Tatuaje, the brands' proprietor, and the folks who happen to enjoy the sticks.  This "look at me, look at me - I'll save you from drinking the Tat Kool-Aid" approach comes across as so, to use your term, "self-important".

X2...don't like 'em, don't smoke 'em!

Cheers,

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Keep opening your mouth. everytime you do you are just keep proving the facts I wrote about. You opened the door. I will say what I want when I want and as often as I wish. Don't like what I write about move on DRAMABOY.

[quote author=lakeside toker link=topic=8335.msg45739#msg45739 date=1301280059]
Keep opening your mouth. everytime you do you are just keep proving the facts I wrote about. You opened the door. I will say what I want when I want and as often as I wish. Don't like what I write about move on DRAMABOY.
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Actually, your constant trolling and "Tatuaje Sucks" commentary is what opened the door.

On the contrary, I'm enjoying what you write quite a bit, so I think I'll stick around.

Aim high, Willis, aim high.