What El Prez said

[Lotusguy]

[quote author=1849badger link=topic=46456.msg194673#msg194673 date=1584389700]
Looks like el pres is having his tyrannical period again, I just saw over a page of comments get deleted. So sad U.S. politics upset him so much. Looks like a few folks got the boot as well. I find it so hysterical that the guy let's the liberal minded folks say whatever they want, and the conservative minded guys get shut up right quick and yet the guy claims to be non-biased. He's so full of shit. I watch that from the sidelines, because I know if I posted there I would get banned within 5 minutes. I'm sure there will be plenty of el pres sympathizers. Don't care. The guy doesn't practice what he preaches.

I moved to OLH from the Cigar Aficionado forums about a year before those all went to hell, and boy, I'm glad I did. Although I do miss DocBarry's daily start to the cigar of the day thread, I'm sure some of you remember him. I need to do more posting and less lurking. I'm thankful to Wade for giving us this place to duke it out if necessary, lol!
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I think it was an overreaction by the powers that be on FOH (again) - what I saw in that thread was pretty civil discussion which didn't warrant any suspensions or deletions. I wouldn't necessarily say there is a liberal bias there - I got put on timeout for a political comment before and I am certainly on the liberal side. That said, it's his forum so he can do what he pleases - don't ever expect any free exchange of information, though - there are many posts deleted that are critical of his pricing, grading, sales tactics, quality, ... As a result, the forum is full of brownnoses and cool aid drinkers. His grading system is laughable and he has the EXACT same amount of plugged, underfilled, moldy, and damaged sticks as any of the reputable grey market vendors. Caveat emptor.

[1849badger]

[quote author=Lotusguy link=topic=46456.msg194676#msg194676 date=1584390861]
I think it was an overreaction by the powers that be on FOH (again) - what I saw in that thread was pretty civil discussion which didn't warrant any suspensions or deletions. I wouldn't necessarily say there is a liberal bias there - I got put on timeout for a political comment before and I am certainly on the liberal side. That said, it's his forum so he can do what he pleases - don't ever expect any free exchange of information, though - there are many posts deleted that are critical of his pricing, grading, sales tactics, quality, ... As a result, the forum is full of brownnoses and cool aid drinkers. His grading system is laughable and he has the EXACT same amount of plugged, underfilled, moldy, and damaged sticks as any of the reputable grey market vendors. Caveat emptor.
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Good to know on the suspensions at least. I lean conservative, so I just suspect I would get the boot pretty quick. Yeah, his pricing scheme has been shady for years, the same mastercase will have 4 or 5 different price points for cigars he paid the same amount for. Part of why I watch from the sidelines. Oh and his homeboy ken is able to say whatever the fuck he wants to and get away with it. Like you said, his house, his rules, but damn, what an ass. I did see a guy get absolutely throttled because he questioned the pricing. Just fucked up. And then he has the gall to call the people he banned pathetic for talking U.S. politics on a thread that had clearly turned political. What a hypocrite.

[Hutch]

Not sure how long ago I was banned, but not once since have I even wondered what was going on over there.  :bla:

[tstoner86]

Let me guess. Senor Perfecto was one of the posters? Lol


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[jdouglas]

[quote author=Hutch link=topic=46456.msg194728#msg194728 date=1584569337]
Not sure how long ago I was banned, but not once since have I even wondered what was going on over there.  :bla:
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Same here and somehow I still manage to have plenty of awesome smokes on hand all the time.  Would you believe there are other great vendors out in the world that will sell smokes without requiring constant genuflection from the unwashed masses? 

[1849badger]

[quote author=jdouglas link=topic=46456.msg194733#msg194733 date=1584579060]
Same here and somehow I still manage to have plenty of awesome smokes on hand all the time.  Would you believe there are other great vendors out in the world that will sell smokes without requiring constant genuflection from the unwashed masses? 
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Isn't that the truth. The guy just wants his ass kissed all the time. From what I can tell, he just made the place for his own self gratification. What a piece of work.

[H Upmann]

[quote author=tstoner86 link=topic=46456.msg194730#msg194730 date=1584570165]
Let me guess. Senor Perfecto was one of the posters? Lol


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Hahahaha :kissa:

[kingcohiba]

I didn't even know what a forum was until the summer of 09 when I come across one and joined. They got a little funny and a decent amount of us got banned over basically speaking our minds about the bs. Then we started one, lasted for a few years and some internal bullshit made it go away.

I've heard about this foh obviously and nothing but bad things either. I've always witnessed the ass kissing especially on reddit (which I recently discovered) and even here some.

I really wish more folks participated in discussions here. I actually miss having a forum where everyone knew each other. There's something oddly cool about it.

[bdw1984]

[quote author=1849badger link=topic=46456.msg194673#msg194673 date=1584389700]
Looks like el pres is having his tyrannical period again, I just saw over a page of comments get deleted. So sad U.S. politics upset him so much. Looks like a few folks got the boot as well. I find it so hysterical that the guy let's the liberal minded folks say whatever they want, and the conservative minded guys get shut up right quick and yet the guy claims to be non-biased. He's so full of shit. I watch that from the sidelines, because I know if I posted there I would get banned within 5 minutes. I'm sure there will be plenty of el pres sympathizers. Don't care. The guy doesn't practice what he preaches.
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I was one of the people who got banned, and it was for saying (in reference to Trump) "the guy is a clown, leaders need to lead".  I guess that makes me one of the liberal minded folks, but I definitely got banned (lifetime at first, modified to a suspension ). 

It is a rule on the forum to not discuss US politics, so I guess I get the suspension, but there are plenty of people on the forum that post highly incendiary stuff, and it gets laughed at with no consequences. Hypocritical at best.

[JohnnyLigero]

Has his new website even launched yet?  I thought it was supposed too weeks ago?