elderboy = moldy cigars?

[moki]

[quote author=Diamondog link=topic=12232.msg64704#msg64704 date=1325096945]
It ain't mold....it is plume, isn't that obvious?
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Sounds good, you keep that "plume" covered cigar right where it is.

:cool:

[moki]

[quote author=Diamondog link=topic=12232.msg64716#msg64716 date=1325117525]
When you spend the kind of money I spend on 'em, you make sure everything is A OK, always...Plume is the sign of well aged and well taken care of cigar....that Monte in question is 4 years aging.....I'm guessing not too many people would have a problem sampling sticks from my collection lol...
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I say this only as a cautionary tale for others who are looking at your picture, and reading your false confidence.

You are not going to get "plume" on a 4 year old cigar that's clearly been disturbed more than a few times in its 4 year lifespan.

Most people who speak of "plume" -- including insistent cigar shop clerks -- have no idea what they are talking about.

Now, there is a reasonable chance it is not mold... but it definitely is not plume (nee bloom).  I'd suggest looking at it with a magnifying glass to be sure...

Pretty amazing coincidence that "plume" has formed on such young, non-intact (i.e., disturbed) cigars, but [i]only[/i] close to the humidification beads, and nowhere else on the cigars tho...

[ivo]

 I'm looking for a 'crickets' icon here... oh well.  

:crickets:

 use your imagination.

[4cbln3]

I use only an AC and portable dehumidifier in my humi (i live in a tropical setting).
There's nothing with propylene glycol in there, safe to say I"ll never see plume?

[Diamondog]

[quote author=moki link=topic=12232.msg64735#msg64735 date=1325140306]
I say this only as a cautionary tale for others who are looking at your picture, and reading your false confidence.

You are not going to get "plume" on a 4 year old cigar that's clearly been disturbed more than a few times in its 4 year lifespan.

Most people who speak of "plume" -- including insistent cigar shop clerks -- have no idea what they are talking about.

Now, there is a reasonable chance it is not mold... but it definitely is not plume (nee bloom).  I'd suggest looking at it with a magnifying glass to be sure...

Pretty amazing coincidence that "plume" has formed on such young, non-intact (i.e., disturbed) cigars, but [i]only[/i] close to the humidification beads, and nowhere else on the cigars tho...
[/quote]

Lol, its ok I don't need your approval....there will always be disagreements in this hobby, you are incorrect and I'm good with that. I simply posted this picture as an aid to illustrate that the original picture was not mold. Most comments have been discussion based you smply want to tell me I'm wrong and my cigars are moldy lol. If you are ever in Ottawa Canada let me know I'd be glad to show you my collection and enjoy a fine cigar with you.

[family guy]

No disagreement on the fact you're a MORON. Take your Lame ass cigar collection and get back in your mom's basement.  :nana: :nana:

[randomhero1090]

[quote author=ivo link=topic=12232.msg64730#msg64730 date=1325134281]
Ah, plume/bloom one and the same.  oops.

How would propylene glycol crystallize? 
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Your question is why he did the analysis.  I sent you and Grateful a PM.

[Knuck42]

[quote]I use only an AC and portable dehumidifier in my humi (i live in a tropical setting).
There's nothing with propylene glycol in there, safe to say I"ll never see plume?[/quote]Not necessarily so.  Propylene glycol is NOT what causes bloom/plume.  I believe the research referenced above mentioned that large amounts of it were found in the samples studied because such a product was used in maintaining the humidity of the cigars that the samples were taken from.  Bloom/plume is created when cigars are left to age undisturbed for extended periods of time, (many years), and the essential oils and other organic matter within them dries and crystallizes upon the outside of the cigar.  This is not to say that bloom/plume will form on all cigars left to age this way, but this is what causes it to form.  If you age your cigars in such a manner you may indeed see the formation of bloom/plume in your collection. 

[canadianbeaver]

Now you know why I just stick to brown healthy cigars. (cigars are healthy, not the habit of smoking the darlings). I am just not comfortable deciding what is what with them.

However, all this science talk is hot, so carry on.

CB

:nana:

[ekert]

I'm with Moki; I find it hard to believe so much plume can form in 4 years (especially since the process can typically takes decades).