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Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:14 pm
by WadeFillingame
E[quote author=jasdav16 link=topic=9304.msg51503#msg51503 date=1304780561]
I certainly won't speak for Wade but I'd tend to think of those donations more like a service fee or rake...win or lose the house gets it's cut.  :)
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There has been a thread in the general forum addressing this now for several hours.  It's taken care of. 

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 3:40 pm
by moki
[quote author=XTR link=topic=9304.msg51505#msg51505 date=1304781258]
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There has been a thread in the general forum addressing this now for several hours.   It's taken care of. 
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Thanks, I didn't see it.  Well done, Wade!

[url=http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/index.php?topic=9316.0]Donations made to OLH as a part of Triple Ligero's sales[/url]

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:01 pm
by elk hunter
[quote author=XTR link=topic=9304.msg51505#msg51505 date=1304781258]
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There has been a thread in the general forum addressing this now for several hours.   It's taken care of. 
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Excellent decision Wade... 

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:02 pm
by insight
Good work Wade, thank you

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:53 pm
by jimbobber
[quote author=XTR link=topic=9304.msg51489#msg51489 date=1304772363]
The Benefactor I can make go away, you guys keep referencing it with the "Hermosa", it's related to the number of posts and nothing else .  Just like the Corona Gorda currently in my name or the Robusto in yours.
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Just curious, Wade. Is there a "table" posted anywhere that defines the different labels related to number of posts or donation levels?

I would've just asked, "what does Hermosa mean?", but with a variety of responses, I would just assume that folks were paying me compliments.  :laugh:

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:03 pm
by WadeFillingame
[quote author=jimbobber link=topic=9304.msg51534#msg51534 date=1304794380]
Just curious, Wade. Is there a "table" posted anywhere that defines the different labels related to number of posts or donation levels?

I would've just asked, "what does Hermosa mean?", but with a variety of responses, I would just assume that folks were paying me compliments.  :laugh:
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[table]
[tr][td]Name[/td] [td]Required posts[/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Newbie[/td] [td]    0[/td][/tr]


[tr][td]Robusto[/td] [td] 50 [/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Corona[/td] [td] 100 [/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Hermosa[/td] [td] 250 [/td][/tr]

[tr][td]Corona Gorda [/td] [td] 500 [/td][/tr]

[/table]



It goes all the way to Gran Corona at 10,000 posts, I haven't had to worry about it after that.  Most BBs set up something like this these days.

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 9:52 pm
by Fuente Fan
Damn, only 25 more posts and I reach that Dick's level.  :)  LOL

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:18 pm
by Judge Vitola
[quote author=XTR link=topic=9304.msg51489#msg51489 date=1304772363]
The Benefactor I can make go away, you guys keep referencing it with the "Hermosa", it's related to the number of posts and nothing else .  Just like the Corona Gorda currently in my name or the Robusto in yours.
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Yes but does being a Benefactor still mean that you know that person's intentions?  :-X

Further, I must reiterate my objection to the idea that you regulate against negative comments regarding price (andby extension sellers), but continue to let posters make comment about price if those comments are "positive."  I think that the evidence has shown that it was in no small part the comments by TL's sycophants that the deals were coming from a "great guy" at a "great price" or was a "great deal." I think that a lot of unsuspecting buyers relied on these comments in making their decisions.  Some may say caveat emptor and that the buyer's duty is to check out the seller to the extent possible, and that seems reasonable at first blush.  However, whether one likes to admit it or not, there really is an "auction" aspect to the TSBC, and the opponent is often time, if only in the prospective buyer's mind.  When a rarity is up for sale at what seems to be a reasonable price, an unsuspecting buyer is not going to take the time to dig up everything about the seller if there are comments about the seller and deal right in the thread, particularly if the buyer thinks that somebody else may beat him to the deal.

Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:30 pm
by WadeFillingame
[quote author=Judge Vitola link=topic=9304.msg51582#msg51582 date=1304860737]
Yes but does being a Benefactor still mean that you know that person's intentions?:-X

Further, I must reiterate my objection to the idea that you regulate against negative comments regarding price (and by extension sellers), but continue to let posters make comment about price if those comments are "positive."; I think that the evidence has shown that it was in no small part the comments by TL's sycophants that the deals were coming from a "great guy" at a "great price" or was a "great deal." I think that a lot of unsuspecting buyers relied on these comments in making their decisions. Some may say caveat emptor and that the buyer's duty is to check out the seller to the extent possible, and that seems reasonable at first blush. However, whether one likes to admit it or not, there really is an "auction" aspect to the TSBC, and the opponent is often time, if only in the prospective buyer's mind.; When a rarity is up for sale at what seems to be a reasonable price, an unsuspecting buyer is not going to take the time to dig up everything about the seller if there are comments about the seller and deal right in the thread, particularly if the buyer thinks that somebody else may beat him to the deal.
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I still stand by the statement that I do not believe it was his intent to break the rules here. He never contacted me for permission to run that and whether you like them or not my enforcement has been consistent. There have been a few other "best offer' type posts in the past and nobody there was suspended, it was dealt with exactly as this one was.

As for your objection to the regulation of comments in the TSBC, you are a couple of days late. ;That has been changed, nobody except the original poster can post to a thread there.

[url=http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/index.php?topic=9276.0]http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/index.php?topic=9276.0[/url]


Re: OLH policy on dealing with scumbags

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:40 pm
by Judge Vitola
[quote author=XTR link=topic=9304.msg51593#msg51593 date=1304868618]
I still stand by the statement that I do not believe it was his intent to break the rules here. He never contacted me for permission to run that and whether you like them or not my enforcement has been consistent. There have been a few other "best offer' type posts in the past and nobody there was suspended, it was dealt with exactly as this one was.

As for your objection to the regulation of comments in the TSBC, you are a couple of days late. ;That has been changed, nobody except the original poster can post to a thread there.

[url=http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/index.php?topic=9276.0]http://www.onlinehumidor.com/forum/index.php?topic=9276.0[/url]


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Cool.  :cool: I just saw the burnem comment that's still on the "Back to Business Sampler" and thought that it was going to be the same old, same old.  My bad.  Sorry.