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Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:34 pm
by krnkid1981
does habanos S.A. freeze their cigars to prevent beetles? If they do, does anybody know when they started doing this?
Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:03 pm
by mcgoospot
They do not freeze. Beetles are EXTREMELY RARE. twice in 16 years of buying and both times they were cigars I bought
From the secondary market.
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Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:05 am
by krnkid1981
thnx for the info
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Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:58 pm
by Havanaaddict
[quote author=krnkid1981 link=topic=21330.msg116057#msg116057 date=1398796494]
does habanos S.A. freeze their cigars to prevent beetles? If they do, does anybody know when they started doing this?
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[b]Well back in 2006 they did freeze there cigars:[/b]
This was a article in Cigar Aficionado:
[b] Posted: October 3, 2006 [/b]
Cuban-cigar merchants are declaring death of the tobacco weevil following a visit to a new, massive storage and quality control center in Guanabacoa, a suburb of Havana.
I visited the complex last week with English cigar merchants Jemma Freeman, head of Cuban cigar importers Hunters & Frankau, and Edward Sahakian, owner of London's Davidoff shop. The 90,000-square-foot building is a temperature- and humidity-controlled building for holding all cigar stocks for export. It has a capacity of about 70 million to 80 million cigars. Habanos S.A., the global distribution and marketing company for Cuban cigars, runs the facility.
The showpiece of the building is four massive freezers where export boxes of cigars are frozen at minus-4 Fahrenheit for five days and then slowly brought to a temperature of about 65. Cuban officials claim that this process completely kills any insects as well as eggs in the tobacco. The freezing is an added measure Habanos has taken even though cigar factories continue to fumigate smokes before they leave their doors.
"This should be the end of weevils as we know them," said Freeman with an enthusiastic smile, after visiting the giant freezers.
Let's hope she is right. There is nothing worse than finding boxes of fine Cuban cigars with weevils having a party inside. Their tiny holes make cigars unsmokable. Once they are in one box and busy at work, they are almost impossible to eradicate. The Cubans say that they can process about 4 million cigars at a time.
Cuban cigars are shipped abroad in thick cardboard boxes that hold on average about 40 individual boxes. It's these shipping boxes that are placed on large racks in the freezers and then frozen.
Freezing of cigars has been a time-honored process for many cigar lovers, who have been afraid of the ravages of the tobacco weevil. Some cigar merchants were already freezing cigars themselves in recent years. Moreover, once the beetles attack cigars, they can be killed by putting them in your freezer for a couple of days.
In the facility's quality control center, finished boxes of cigars are opened and evaluated for quality. This is why you may sometimes see Cuban cigar boxes with double seals on them. A supervisor said that 70 percent of all Cuban cigar boxes are opened and checked for quality, which includes tests for humidity as well as visual and manual evaluation. That figure seemed incredible to me, especially when the supervisor said that only 18 people work there — but my arithmetic has never been very good.
Regardless, Habanos is obviously serious about quality. And the days of the tobacco beetle in Cuban cigars seem to be numbered with the new freezing process
[b]And as far as 2011 they were still doing it:[/b]
This is from an article published on April 1, 2011 called "Habanos Today".
[b]"We are not saying we have solved every problem, but we have put that era behind us, and the complaints have been dramatically reduced," he adds. Jiménez Sánchez-Cañete also explains that every cigar is now frozen before it leaves the warehouse to reduce or eliminate problems with tobacco beetles. [/b]
Don't know
Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:29 pm
by mcgoospot
I thought he was talking about vendors freezing. My bad. Not sure what Cuba does and don't believe what they say they do or don't do(cooking of tobacco has beed denied for years)
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Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:38 pm
by Scott From NY
[quote author=mcgoospot link=topic=21330.msg116138#msg116138 date=1398882593]
I thought he was talking about vendors freezing. My bad. Not sure what Cuba does and don't believe what they say they do or don't do(cooking of tobacco has beed denied for years)
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+1 :clap:
Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:21 pm
by Havanaaddict
[quote author=mcgoospot link=topic=21330.msg116138#msg116138 date=1398882593]
I thought he was talking about vendors freezing. My bad. Not sure what Cuba does and don't believe what they say they do or don't do(cooking of tobacco has beed denied for years)
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Mike I figured you were talking about Vendors!!! No vendors are going to waste there time freezing stock!!!
It's Cuba they will say anything if it helps sell cigars!!!
Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 7:09 pm
by Bwtharp
Really appreciate you taking the time for the write-up. Good information. Thanks
Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:11 am
by MKS446
Great post!
Re: My account of Cuban Cigars since 1995
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:49 am
by SamTheIceCreamMan
Cheers for the simplified write up! Everything was said short and sweetly, which i absolutely adore. :)