UBB I'll start the thread for you...please proceed

[catfishbluezz]

I had one tonight. I got these late wed, had work and school thurs. Last night I had a fresh Siglo IV, aug14, ule code. It was excellent. The cigar in question I had tonight, I made it about halfway through. The finish was terrible. At times I felt like I tastes some habanos like quality on the retro, but the draw flavor was not good. Halfway through I may have detected some habanos flavors, but I could not make it through the rest. I cut the last half open, long filler, no short filler in sight, double binder.

If this was a habanos, I've had better piedra.  Palate was clean off a ribeye, couple glasses of cab, and key lime pie. I'll post pics in a bit.

[catfishbluezz]

In comparison to a very young siglo IV that tastes like all things Cohiba (vanilla, cream, honey, musk, etc), no comparison. I am interested to hear Freds thoughts as well.

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[mk05]

[quote author=catfishbluezz link=topic=32233.msg137695#msg137695 date=1423983449]
In comparison to a very young siglo IV that tastes like all things Cohiba (vanilla, cream, honey, musk, etc), no comparison.
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How on earth are you comparing Siglo with Linea Classica? That's like comparing Partagas to Quai d'Orsay.

[catfishbluezz]

[quote author=mk05 link=topic=32233.msg137729#msg137729 date=1424026040]
How on earth are you comparing Siglo with Linea Classica? That's like comparing Partagas to Quai d'Orsay.
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Im not, that's the freshest Cohiba I had. In terms of Cohiba flavors, both being supposed fresh cigars, habanos flavors, tasting anything like a Cuban cigar, no comparison. It wrecked my palate. I'm not a big robo size fan really, but I've had plenty of coro over the years. I prefer IV, VI, behike from Cohiba. If I compared it to the hundreds of habanos I've had over the last few years, this was not similar. It was not muted, no ammonia like a freshie, just terrible finish. I'm interested to hear what Fred says. This was not a good cigar at all, and it was not easy to make it to the mid point.

Comparisons aside, this cigar was disgusting.

[kingcohiba]

I've dissected many habanos cigars. And that's how the guts look....

[catfishbluezz]

[quote author=kingcohiba link=topic=32233.msg137734#msg137734 date=1424026942]
I've dissected many habanos cigars. And that's how the guts look....
[/quote]guts don't look bad at all

[kingcohiba]

Yeah. Just saying.

[catfishbluezz]

Ash looked a bit off as well

[tksamtec]

[quote author=catfishbluezz link=topic=32233.msg137730#msg137730 date=1424026410]
Comparisons aside, this cigar was disgusting.
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Do you think your determination about the cigar not being real based on the bands and lack of a triple cap had any influence on your smoking opinions of these ?

[catfishbluezz]

[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=32233.msg137741#msg137741 date=1424028714]
Do you think your determination about the cigar not being real based on the bands and lack of a triple cap had any influence on your smoking opinions of these ?


[/quote]bands and cap no, maybe the seller denying my offer to send it to you or Ernie with fuck off might have. I tried my best to be objective. It was not east to smoke half of this.

But really, I've never had a habanos wreck my palate like that. It was not muted or ammonia tasting like a bad fresh box. If it was a box I bought from a legit vendor, I wouldn't resell it and would ask for my money back.