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RBA, Vrat, MR1987, Tigerdood

The new generation of OLH sellers...what else would we expect?
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VRAT just listed his MRR AMO16 Espy box on CSP hoping no one notices, amazing

[quote author=ChefBoyRG54 link=topic=54649.msg210485#msg210485 date=1654830905]
VRAT just listed his MRR AMO16 Espy box on CSP hoping no one notices, amazing
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I'm sure there's plenty of ppl who bought stuff that aren't going to come forward cause then they will have to return them or get shit on like I am lmao

Guys, take it easy on Miles’ $500k comment… it’s difficult for some people to understand the difference between revenue and actual profit.

[quote author=RamonBocAllone link=topic=54649.msg210484#msg210484 date=1654830555]
You guys wanna know what's sad...I bought 2 boxes from MRR and sold them both. Have refunded for one today and I'm refunding the other tomorrow when it arrives in my possession. Yet one other guy who bought a box and flipped them hasn't come forward. And VRAT just posted one of the boxes for sale that he got from MRR on FB. Yet I'm sooooo bad.
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What are you doing with those espys when they arrive btw?

[quote author=ChicagoRob link=topic=54649.msg210497#msg210497 date=1654865464]
What are you doing with those espys when they arrive btw?
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He wants me to return them so he can't talk to the guy he got them from. Idk what will happen to them but that's out of my control. I'd like to destroy them but that's not an option. I asked everyone's opinion on this yesterday and not 1 person answered. Just turned into a shit show.

There is one lesson to be learned by all here.... STAY AWAY FROM THOSE FB CIGAR TRADING GROUPS!!!!

There are some people who flip things so quickly they don't even bother to inspect what they are buying/selling (RBA/VRAT are both guilty of this), and they are surely flipping known fake cigars.  These get passed around, resold, etc... and sadly never destroyed or stopped from being traded.

I remember a similar situation back in the Monte Gran Reserva release days.  Many fake boxes came out of Spain (I remember 2 vendors specifically), and although they were most likely Monte 2s that had a fake 2nd GR band added (not farmies), and GR substandard packaging and labeling, they were easier to spot than some of the more recent fakes with fraudulent UV printing.  Either way, people were buying these, and reselling them, even though some KNEW they were fake.  The same shit is happening here.

Those involved in this situation are responsible for making sure these sticks don't continue to propagate, especially around cigar boards or the FB groups.

[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=54649.msg210499#msg210499 date=1654868806]
There is one lesson to be learned by all here.... STAY AWAY FROM THOSE FB CIGAR TRADING GROUPS!!!!

There are some people who flip things so quickly they don't even bother to inspect what they are buying/selling (RBA/VRAT are both guilty of this), and they are surely flipping known fake cigars.  These get passed around, resold, etc... and sadly never destroyed or stopped from being traded.

I remember a similar situation back in the Monte Gran Reserva release days.  Many fake boxes came out of Spain (I remember 2 vendors specifically), and although they were most likely Monte 2s that had a fake 2nd GR band added (not farmies), and GR substandard packaging and labeling, they were easier to spot than some of the more recent fakes with fraudulent UV printing.  Either way, people were buying these, and reselling them, even though some KNEW they were fake.  The same shit is happening here.

Those involved in this situation are responsible for making sure these sticks don't continue to propagate, especially around cigar boards or the FB groups.
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This has absolutly nothing to FB you dumb ass. And I have never been known to flip fake cigars. I think if that were true it would of been talked about here. You have such a hard on for flippers and FB groups. I love it. Times are changing old man. Move the fuck over 

Todd you are 1000% here for one thing. To make up shit and stir up drama. All you did yesterday was make jokes. Then when your feelings get hurt. You say there's more to my story. I ask what that is. You refuse to reply and instead just say that I am known to flip fake cigars. So why have you never said this before? Because you're here to start drama.

Also Todd if I remember right, 4 or 5 years ago you got caught trading off a few boxes of fake Behike on another board and asked the guy to keep it between the 2 of you once you said you made it right. Then when the cat was out of the bag you attacked the dude. Then a year later you got caught doing it again. You're scum.

[quote author=RamonBocAllone link=topic=54649.msg210501#msg210501 date=1654870609]

This has absolutly nothing to FB you dumb ass. And I have never been known to flip fake cigars. I think if that were true it would of been talked about here. You have such a hard on for flippers and FB groups. I love it. Times are changing old man. Move the fuck over 
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No.  I am not that much older than you and in typical RBA style, you are totally missing my point and making this about me and not yourself.  THere has been good advice given to you here in the BZ on several occasions, but you choose to ignore it and reply back with some stupid witty "Mr Know It All" comment.

Let me state things more clearly for you--YOU ARE IRRESPONSIBLE.  That is simply how you sold and will continue to propagate fakes in the community (here or otherwise).  You claim you don't flip fakes, but you just admitted thats what you did a week ago.  Hard to deny that after you admit to it a page or 2 back in this thread.

It doesn't take long for anyone to see that you only care about yourself and your bottom line. You would scam guys daily just to reach your flip quota.  Honestly, i could care less that you are flipping and I am not here to create drama at all.  I am just stating the obvious... you have sold and flipped fakes.  You do things so haphazardly and quickly that things easily get overlooked.  You don't even know you are doing it, because things don't have long enough to allow 1 spec of dust to settle on the box in your humidor.

I do agree that these FB groups garner a different type of cigar smoker, and maybe you are part of that generation behind me that only cares about themselves, but I refuse to stoop to that/your level.