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I would say RASS, BBF, PSD4 and anything Trinidad are all cigars I wish I had better luck with

Bart

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I would say RASS, BBF, PSD4 and anything Trinidad are all cigars I wish I better luck with

Bart
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I never liked the Fundadores, but the Reyes and Coloniales are lucky for me.
Ive had good Rass`s and BBF`s, but not everytime.

I will agree with Avioli on Trinidad, but have to disagree on the RASS, BBF, and PSD4. 

While always decent, they can be some of the best cigars in the market with time, and not just 10+ years, but 4+.  The problem I have and suspect others have with these cigars is that they are robustos.  While not an expert on cigar blending, I feel that the big ring guage tends water down the blend and you can get 4 or 5 different leaves burning at once, muddling the flavors together.  Another problem (true or not) is that the filler/binder overwhelm the wrapper flavor.  Some say that the wrapper contributes that majority of the flavor to a cigar.  In a robusto the filler/binder to wrapper ratio is the lowest of any cigar (except the new "nub" sty cigars which I stay away from).  Another problem with robustos is that they can be too easy to draw, thus burning too hot and fast, ruining the flavor. 

I try fight this (I tend to smoke WAY too fast!), when I actually stop and think about it, to draw especially slow on robustos.  This has proven to me that the cigars mentioned above can be complex and very flavorful!

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I will agree with Avioli on Trinidad, but have to disagree on the RASS, BBF, and PSD4. 

While always decent, they can be some of the best cigars in the market with time, and not just 10+ years, but 4+.  The problem I have and suspect others have with these cigars is that they are robustos.  While not an expert on cigar blending, I feel that the big ring guage tends water down the blend and you can get 4 or 5 different leaves burning at once, muddling the flavors together.  Another problem (true or not) is that the filler/binder overwhelm the wrapper flavor.  Some say that the wrapper contributes that majority of the flavor to a cigar.  In a robusto the filler/binder to wrapper ratio is the lowest of any cigar (except the new "nub" sty cigars which I stay away from).  Another problem with robustos is that they can be too easy to draw, thus burning too hot and fast, ruining the flavor. 

I try fight this (I tend to smoke WAY too fast!), when I actually stop and think about it, to draw especially slow on robustos.  This has proven to me that the cigars mentioned above can be complex and very flavorful!
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Dont get me wrong, i am a BBF fan.

Is there a reason why so many of the new listings today are OX's? Are folks trying to offload them? And on Twitter and Facebook there is an ad:

[url=http://www.cigarsdirect.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=233&idproduct=417]http://www.cigarsdirect.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=233&idproduct=417[/url]

Is this a decent price?

When I started looking for these a few months ago they were "rare"?

CB

Well some can get them for retail which is hard or impossible for many including me (especially because I live in Cali). So selling them off for more is easy to do. Some say the OXs are not what they used to be. I'd consider them very good cigars still. OXs are more readily available than ever before so the market is pretty flooded with them.
As for the OXA that you linked to your response I would consider that price high now. I remember paying that price a couple years ago but like I said before, the market is flooded with OX now.

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Is there a reason why so many of the new listings today are OX's? Are folks trying to offload them? And on Twitter and Facebook there is an ad:

[url=http://www.cigarsdirect.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=233&idproduct=417]http://www.cigarsdirect.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=233&idproduct=417[/url]

Is this a decent price?

When I started looking for these a few months ago they were "rare"?

CB.

So CB the company I work for is based in Buffalo NY. I will be there again in April the week of the 11th. If you want to come across I can get you a 2 or 3 *maybe more by then* of these at 40 a piece. If there is anything else you would like to get your hands on as well shoot me a pm and ill see what I can do for ya.

Cheers
Trevor
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Thank you Trevor, and others. I have lots of OX's. I was just making an observation.

And the sudden offers to sell me these at great prices kind of shows my point?

CB