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[quote author=AlohaStyle link=topic=51927.msg201702#msg201702 date=1614976450]
As said above, scams happened where buyers received cigars, then filed a claim with PP and got their money back.  Some sellers stopped accepting PP altogether, some required F&F.  Yes of course everything is negotiable here.  But if you agree to a deal when the sellers says F&F then pay Goods covering fees, you didn't negotiate, you went against the deal. 
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  You're referring to a post where the member said he "thinks" he "heard" on a "Facebook group" that "scams" happened as described.  Not exactly credible information.

  Further, unless I'm doing a deal with you, how I conduct transactions here is between the other party and me.  You have zero input into the equation.  Let's keep it that way, eh?

[quote author=Diplomatico link=topic=51927.msg201707#msg201707 date=1614989301]
  You're referring to a post where the member said he "thinks" he "heard" on a "Facebook group" that "scams" happened as described.  Not exactly credible information.

  Further, unless I'm doing a deal with you, how I conduct transactions here is between the other party and me.  You have zero input into the equation.  Let's keep it that way, eh?
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I'm not referring to anyone else's post, I'm referring to my own witness of multiple scams in the past and saying why some people require F&F now because of it. 

And by all means, have at it... going against the seller requirements without telling them, cool.  That has nothing to do with me, you admitted it to everyone. 

Back to the topic...
[quote author=joeypots link=topic=51927.msg200774#msg200774 date=1610384757]
I used Pay Pal  last week for a box. No matter what I did, website, App, reload the page and app. and restart the phone or desktop, after I populates the $ amount field and pressed next I got a screen that was asking about purchase protection. I should have taken a screen shot.... Anyway, after a few days the screen showed, after pushing next after populating the $ amount field,  the option button that showed the FF selection. Anyone else have this problem?
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[quote author=AlohaStyle link=topic=51927.msg201702#msg201702 date=1614976450]
As said above, scams happened where buyers received cigars, then filed a claim with PP and got their money back.  Some sellers stopped accepting PP altogether, some required F&F.  Yes of course everything is negotiable here.  But if you agree to a deal when the sellers says F&F then pay Goods covering fees, you didn't negotiate, you went against the deal. 
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You can pay F and F with a credit card and dispute the charge with your credit card company.  It doesn’t protect the seller any more than G and S.

[quote author=joeypots link=topic=51927.msg200774#msg200774 date=1610384757]
I used Pay Pal  last week for a box. No matter what I did, website, App, reload the page and app. and restart the phone or desktop, after I populates the $ amount field and pressed next I got a screen that was asking about purchase protection. I should have taken a screen shot.... Anyway, after a few days the screen showed, after pushing next after populating the $ amount field,  the option button that showed the FF selection. Anyone else have this problem?
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Never had this happen to me before that I can recall.

PP has been a little weird for me lately.  I've used the app for years with zero problems but lately it will not open in the app.  I've tried all the usual...uninstall, re-install.  I've been on the phone with PP for over an hour trying to figure it out.  The weird thing is if I go to chrome on my phone and do a search for PP, when I click on sign in from there I have no problems and my account opens right up.  Nobody knows how to fix it.  They claim they've opened a ticket on it but after 2 weeks plus still the same frustrating stuff.  The app on my home computer opens but it takes about 60-90 seconds of the spinning thingy.
Of course they want to blame my side.  >:(