[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=46748.msg185772#msg185772 date=1544129484]
No need to SMH...
1966s were alot more common in late 2011/early 2012, which was roughly the timeframe of this GB.
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Wow that was 6 years ago? I remember feeling slighted because he didn't email me back about this GB. Then all he'll broke loose. Lol. Great times, before Facebook.
ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
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Carp69
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=46748.msg185772#msg185772 date=1544129484]
No need to SMH...
1966s were alot more common in late 2011/early 2012, which was roughly the timeframe of this GB.
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Ahhh gotcha. Thought this just happened.
TMYK
No need to SMH...
1966s were alot more common in late 2011/early 2012, which was roughly the timeframe of this GB.
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Ahhh gotcha. Thought this just happened.
TMYK
Be sure and make deposits in all areas of your life, because at some point you will need to make a withdraw. No deposits are more important than those made in relationships.
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=nick2021 link=topic=46748.msg185785#msg185785 date=1544145307]
You were on that board bro....
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Maybe so. No idea. Don’t pay attention to them. Only really active on 2.
Shoot me a PM.
You were on that board bro....
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Maybe so. No idea. Don’t pay attention to them. Only really active on 2.
Shoot me a PM.
Be sure and make deposits in all areas of your life, because at some point you will need to make a withdraw. No deposits are more important than those made in relationships.
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=46748.msg185738#msg185738 date=1544099585]
I can attest to what Michael has stated above (Srsmiscer)...I rec'd 2 of those boxes of 1966s. I can honestly say that they were excellent fakes. Box, packaging, paperwork, information, bands, etc, was all legit...except for the barcodes/boxcode seals, and the cigars. I believe these boxes contained well rolled farmies or otherwise, and they were just rebanded as 1966s. The sizes and twists on the caps were well done too. These came from Manuel at Cigar Trading Online (CTO), which was not something that the members participating in the GB were aware of. CTO is an Estanco in Spain with a history of selling fakes. Monte Grand Reservas were also sold in the same GB and came from the same source. other boxes in this GB came from LCDHs and other reputable vendors, NOT CTO. So, the 1966s and MGRs were he only suspect boxes in this GB. I personally do not know the extent of the sale/GB deal with CTO, or how many boxes were involved, I would speculate at least 20+ 1966s, and 15 or so boxes of MGRs.
As for my situation, after doing my thorough research, the 2 boxes I received were returned to CTO and I did receive a refund, after a few months of bickering/haggeling/complaining, but I was made whole, minus 20-30 bucks total, which I did't complain too much about. Thankfully, I did not buy any of the MGRs from the same vendor.
I have pics somewhere of the 1966s and I will see if I can dig them up this weekend... but they key is the barcode seal. Everything else is legit, close to perfect, so much that its difficult to detect anything out of the ordinary with the naked eye. I have seen the fakes in question up close, and I will gladly help out here, if I can.
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Good ol CTO....showed up in a scam as recent as earlier this year. But most people wouldnt know about it because the seller/scammer used all his lackies and lap riders to censor it from the net. I wonder who still has the screenies tying it altogether... :-X
I can attest to what Michael has stated above (Srsmiscer)...I rec'd 2 of those boxes of 1966s. I can honestly say that they were excellent fakes. Box, packaging, paperwork, information, bands, etc, was all legit...except for the barcodes/boxcode seals, and the cigars. I believe these boxes contained well rolled farmies or otherwise, and they were just rebanded as 1966s. The sizes and twists on the caps were well done too. These came from Manuel at Cigar Trading Online (CTO), which was not something that the members participating in the GB were aware of. CTO is an Estanco in Spain with a history of selling fakes. Monte Grand Reservas were also sold in the same GB and came from the same source. other boxes in this GB came from LCDHs and other reputable vendors, NOT CTO. So, the 1966s and MGRs were he only suspect boxes in this GB. I personally do not know the extent of the sale/GB deal with CTO, or how many boxes were involved, I would speculate at least 20+ 1966s, and 15 or so boxes of MGRs.
As for my situation, after doing my thorough research, the 2 boxes I received were returned to CTO and I did receive a refund, after a few months of bickering/haggeling/complaining, but I was made whole, minus 20-30 bucks total, which I did't complain too much about. Thankfully, I did not buy any of the MGRs from the same vendor.
I have pics somewhere of the 1966s and I will see if I can dig them up this weekend... but they key is the barcode seal. Everything else is legit, close to perfect, so much that its difficult to detect anything out of the ordinary with the naked eye. I have seen the fakes in question up close, and I will gladly help out here, if I can.
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Good ol CTO....showed up in a scam as recent as earlier this year. But most people wouldnt know about it because the seller/scammer used all his lackies and lap riders to censor it from the net. I wonder who still has the screenies tying it altogether... :-X
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RG
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=ChefBoyRG54 link=topic=46748.msg186079#msg186079 date=1545147072]
Good ol CTO....showed up in a scam as recent as earlier this year. But most people wouldnt know about it because the seller/scammer used all his lackies and lap riders to censor it from the net. I wonder who still has the screenies tying it altogether... :-X
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This year?!?! Wow
Good ol CTO....showed up in a scam as recent as earlier this year. But most people wouldnt know about it because the seller/scammer used all his lackies and lap riders to censor it from the net. I wonder who still has the screenies tying it altogether... :-X
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This year?!?! Wow
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=ChefBoyRG54 link=topic=46748.msg186079#msg186079 date=1545147072]
Good ol CTO....showed up in a scam as recent as earlier this year. But most people wouldnt know about it because the seller/scammer used all his lackies and lap riders to censor it from the net. I wonder who still has the screenies tying it altogether... :-X
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Well, they say once a thief always a thief... apparently very true for good ole Manuel at CTO. I was not aware of any additional recent scams, but I do know that he is the only shop advertising Alfredo Martinez customs (very unique blend, and good). However, apparently after ordering and paying, you never hear anything and you never get your order either. I think your only option is a chargeback, and for some CCs, if you wait too long (past 45 or 60 days, AMEX is longer), you are SOL.
Good ol CTO....showed up in a scam as recent as earlier this year. But most people wouldnt know about it because the seller/scammer used all his lackies and lap riders to censor it from the net. I wonder who still has the screenies tying it altogether... :-X
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Well, they say once a thief always a thief... apparently very true for good ole Manuel at CTO. I was not aware of any additional recent scams, but I do know that he is the only shop advertising Alfredo Martinez customs (very unique blend, and good). However, apparently after ordering and paying, you never hear anything and you never get your order either. I think your only option is a chargeback, and for some CCs, if you wait too long (past 45 or 60 days, AMEX is longer), you are SOL.
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=46748.msg186089#msg186089 date=1545158884]
Well, they say once a thief always a thief... apparently very true for good ole Manuel at CTO. I was not aware of any additional recent scams, but I do know that he is the only shop advertising Alfredo Martinez customs (very unique blend, and good). However, apparently after ordering and paying, you never hear anything and you never get your order either. I think your only option is a chargeback, and for some CCs, if you wait too long (past 45 or 60 days, AMEX is longer), you are SOL.
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Todd, i know you like your El Laguito Cohiba so as a caution I would try an avoid 'MUO ENE 14' Siglo 4, 5, and 6 boxes, especially if no transit seal under the warranty seal. There were also MUO MAY 15 CoRo but much more difficult to isolate since more plausible.
Enjoy the holidays brutha!
Well, they say once a thief always a thief... apparently very true for good ole Manuel at CTO. I was not aware of any additional recent scams, but I do know that he is the only shop advertising Alfredo Martinez customs (very unique blend, and good). However, apparently after ordering and paying, you never hear anything and you never get your order either. I think your only option is a chargeback, and for some CCs, if you wait too long (past 45 or 60 days, AMEX is longer), you are SOL.
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Todd, i know you like your El Laguito Cohiba so as a caution I would try an avoid 'MUO ENE 14' Siglo 4, 5, and 6 boxes, especially if no transit seal under the warranty seal. There were also MUO MAY 15 CoRo but much more difficult to isolate since more plausible.
Enjoy the holidays brutha!
Cheers
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
Muo May Coro should be 2014s. I don’t remember that code carrying into 2015 but I’m not 100% positive.
Ol Manuel and starschmuck two peas in a pod.
Ol Manuel and starschmuck two peas in a pod.
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=SrsMiscer link=topic=46748.msg186098#msg186098 date=1545176117]
Muo May Coro should be 2014s. I don’t remember that code carrying into 2015 but I’m not 100% positive.
Ol Manuel and starschmuck two peas in a pod.
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wasn't good ol starcuck, the perpetual victim, this time... but he is roaming around fb slowing building up some rep on some slow pages getting prepped for inevitable assplow of someone im sure.
Muo May Coro should be 2014s. I don’t remember that code carrying into 2015 but I’m not 100% positive.
Ol Manuel and starschmuck two peas in a pod.
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wasn't good ol starcuck, the perpetual victim, this time... but he is roaming around fb slowing building up some rep on some slow pages getting prepped for inevitable assplow of someone im sure.
Cheers
RG
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mastershake72
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Re: ISO Edición Limitada's (Trinidad, Cohiba.)
[quote author=SrsMiscer link=topic=46748.msg186098#msg186098 date=1545176117]
Muo May Coro should be 2014s. I don’t remember that code carrying into 2015 but I’m not 100% positive.
Ol Manuel and starschmuck two peas in a pod.
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MUO did carry into 2015, I believe it transitioned to AMO in August or September. I've got a box that is coded MUO JUL 15.
Muo May Coro should be 2014s. I don’t remember that code carrying into 2015 but I’m not 100% positive.
Ol Manuel and starschmuck two peas in a pod.
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MUO did carry into 2015, I believe it transitioned to AMO in August or September. I've got a box that is coded MUO JUL 15.