The truth is Inconvenient...

[movell]

[quote author=bpegler link=topic=38092.msg160098#msg160098 date=1462732902]
Perhaps you misunderstand where the burden of proof lies in an argument?
I believe that you are making an "argument from ignorance", or, perhaps...

Russell's teapot.
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It appears he is asking for scientific proof that the human contribution to global climate change does not exist. That would require research that meets the standard and shows the causes of increase in global temperatures are entirely contributed by other sources. So far, that has not been done. It would also appear that the anti-human contribution to climate change contingent is operating in the realm of Russell's Teapot as no evidence for that position has been brought forth, there is evidence for greenhouse gases, their sources and effects.
The Teapot was used to to show the existence of god cannot be disproved. As a note, it cannot be proved either. It is a belief, not physical, measurable condition in the universe.

It's been fun, later guys. ;)

[bpegler]

[quote author=movell link=topic=38092.msg160100#msg160100 date=1462735611]
It appears he is asking for scientific proof that the human contribution to global climate change does not exist. That would require research that meets the standard and shows the causes of increase in global temperatures are entirely contributed by other sources. So far, that has not been done. It would also appear that the anti-human contribution to climate change contingent is operating in the realm of Russell's Teapot as no evidence for that position has been brought forth, there is evidence for greenhouse gases, their sources and effects.
The Teapot was used to to show the existence of god cannot be disproved. As a note, it cannot be proved either. It is a belief, not physical, measurable condition in the universe.

It's been fun, later guys. ;)
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Apparently you also misunderstand who has the burden of proof in this, or any argument.

Those who criticize anthropogenic global climate change do not have the burden of proof. Arguing that they do, is an argument from ignorance.

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[Johnny-O!]

Back in the day we never got out of the 80F temps here in south Florida. Now high 90's is normal in the summer with a RH 85%+. It feels like you're wearing a wet wool sweater in a sauna. John

[forgop]

[quote author=bpegler link=topic=38092.msg160104#msg160104 date=1462744735]
Apparently you also misunderstand who has the burden of proof in this, or any argument.

Those who criticize anthropogenic global climate change do not have the burden of proof. Arguing that they do, is an argument from ignorance.
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Because your science is right and anyone else refuting said science is wrong.

Smh

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[TheGipper]

[quote author=Johnny-O! link=topic=38092.msg160116#msg160116 date=1462764998]
Back in the day we never got out of the 80F temps here in south Florida.[/quote]

If by "never" you mean "always", then yes.  Fort Lauderdale is the closest station I can find to Miami.  It's gotten above 90 every single year since the records begin (1912) there.

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[hp123]

[quote author=Johnny-O! link=topic=38092.msg160116#msg160116 date=1462764998]
Back in the day we never got out of the 80F temps here in south Florida. Now high 90's is normal in the summer with a RH 85%+. It feels like you're wearing a wet wool sweater in a sauna. John
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Not sure how old you are, but growing up in Miami & Ft. Lauderdale my entire life we hit high 90's every year since I've been born. I remember all summer playing sports all day every day (before everyone only played video games inside) and it was always 90+, every day for months.

[bpegler]

[quote author=forgop link=topic=38092.msg160117#msg160117 date=1462769156]
Because your science is right and anyone else refuting said science is wrong.

Smh

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Try looking up "burden of proof" and "argument from ignorance". Nothing I have said is about science, or global warming. Just pointing out fallacious reasoning.

[Hutch]

[quote author=Pole Lock link=topic=38092.msg160092#msg160092 date=1462723062]
Alright - I'm calling your half-baked bluff. Post here the source of a peer-reviewed meteorological study (which reproduces the results of a previous study) which "PROVES" human-caused/accelerated climate change is a falsehood. And please don't include something from the Drudge Report or Alex Jones.
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Prove of a negative ? Ummmm.nice try. How about failure to prove the theory ? Research undersea volcanos if you think that humans are a significant contribution to greenhouse gases. When the Ice Age ended, was it human caused Global Climate Change ? As the Sahara area transformed from lush rain forest to desert, was it human caused Global Climate Change ? If your answer to either is yes, please explain which humans were responsible :)

It was going on before we populated the planet, and it will be going on after we are gone. "Science" has yet to prove differently. Hell, 50 years ago, the scare was global COOLING. But it wasn't near as profitable :)

[TheGipper]

Isn't it fair to ask why 30-40+ years of climate models are failing to correctly predict future temperature trends?

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