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[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141624#msg141624 date=1428536528]
My local has 15 cases of that forged oak shit. He only asked for 5 bottles and they shipped him now 5 cases 3 times. They called and asked if he could take another 15. If he did they would have gave him 8 cases of lost prophet.


Jefferson started this shit with the Presidential and the bullshit.
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jeffersons presidential 18.....i really liked that stuff.

im so out of the loop, going to have to look this stuff up!

How would you be privy to this information out of curiosity?

[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141643#msg141643 date=1428583044]
Cigar Cartel

They are creating a special C2 cigar blend WITH impromptu and have agreed to keep all bashing/hating clean from their group as an agreement.


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[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141643#msg141643 date=1428583044]
Cigar Cartel

They are creating a special C2 cigar blend WITH impromptu and have agreed to keep all bashing/hating clean from their group as an agreement.


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That's what I thought.

People on that group went nuts when all the new stuff went up! Now they are all trying to sell them shit sticks. I recently tried a Pcs and it sucked! Passed on all that L&F hype.

Having friends and forming an opinion on what they think may be happening is one thing. Tossing out an opinion as a fact and then acting all super sleuth when asked is quite a bit different. You are referencing a FB group are you not? So unless you are an admin, which I don't believe you are, or you are on the inside with Caldwell or whomever is making the cigars in question you having the actual lowdown is dubious at best.

Admin's at the Cartel Page have in fact been outspoken about a lot of the L/F sticks. One doesn't seem to like Caldwell at all. Another has tagged the Yellow Cake as the most over hyped cigar ever and another opined the Pidgeon as being below average at best.

I would hardly consider that the action of a bunch of fanboys but that's JMO. I have no dog in the fight but lets keep it real at least.

[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141659#msg141659 date=1428593279]
Ill leave where and what out of this. This is not my first rodeo. I got friends all over buddy.
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[quote author=UBB link=topic=33166.msg141664#msg141664 date=1428594781]
Having friends and forming an opinion on what they think may be happening is one thing. Tossing out an opinion as a fact and then acting all super sleuth when asked is quite a bit different. You are referencing a FB group are you not? So unless you are an admin, which I don't believe you are, or you are on the inside with Caldwell or whomever is making the cigars in question you having the actual lowdown is dubious at best.

Admin's at the Cartel Page have in fact been outspoken about a lot of the L/F sticks. One doesn't seem to like Caldwell at all. Another has tagged the Yellow Cake as the most over hyped cigar ever and another opined the Pidgeon as being below average at best.

I would hardly consider that the action of a bunch of fanboys but that's JMO. I have no dog in the fight but lets keep it real at least.

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The bottom line is that these are over hyped, rebranded shity cigars!!

[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141667#msg141667 date=1428595356]
Glad to see you answering your own questions.

Its not an opinion you dolt. Why would I ruin my sources and a friendship?


What happened last time you tried to fit in with the big boys.... Still have yet to see you or Catfish apologize...


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Fit in? Big Boys? Only big thing around here is your opinion of yourself. I simply asked a question and pointed out some documented facts versus your  opinions.
I happen to agree with the claims of the cigars in question being over hyped, and rebrands but that doesn't mean there is some behind closed door dealings going on.

I don't know Catfish anymore than I know you. It seems obvious that you and he know each other though, which further suggests that you are talking out your ass (yet again) out of pure spite.

Hey but if you want to deflect and talk about other things (yet again) please remind me what I should be apologizing for again.

No you did not state facts. You posted an OPINION based on what I can only assume is 2nd hand knowledge.
You posted:
[quote][i]They are creating a special C2 cigar blend WITH impromptu and have agreed to keep all bashing/hating clean from their group as an agreement.[/i][/quote]

Which is in stark contrast to what I was personally told by a Cartel Admin not 2 hours ago.
[quote][b]...we haven't even decided on who we are going to go with in regards to our cartel cigar. L&F was an option but we are leaning towards going a different direction. Considering they don't really blend most their own cigars.  And we want one blended just for us.[/b][/quote]

So it sounds like no decisions have even been made yet, but keep keeping on with your Super Sleuth sources. It is cheap entertainment on a slow Thursday.

Oh and for someone who cares so little about the goings on at the Cartel you sure seem interested.

[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141672#msg141672 date=1428596401]

Again, Where did I post an opinion. I stated FACTS!

I have never even been apart of that cigar group. I could care less.
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It obviously isn't a big secret that there is interest in a C2 cigar. I don't know any of the admins personally at all, not by a long shot yet it seems I was able to ascertain a lot more accurate info than your Super Sleuth sources. Info that directly contradicts what you touted as FACT. Interesting.

[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141675#msg141675 date=1428597591]
Lmfao! So how the hell did I know that cigar cartel and impromptu were in talks. Put 2 and 2 together!

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Nor do I smoke them. Just wanted to point out you're not quite the know it all as you like everyone to think.
Oh and it's "couldn't care less"

saying you "can careless' infers that you do, in fact care. Which I think is obvious to most by now.  ;)
[quote author=Taps86 link=topic=33166.msg141676#msg141676 date=1428597833]
And what the fuck you talking about being a sleuth. I Can careless. Your the one asking me questions. I don't smoke these cigars and never will.
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