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[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=10618.msg58019#msg58019 date=1313870899]
I guess we all have to be very careful of our source when buying somewhat rare Fuente's too.  I really didn't think anyone was doing the "presto chango" on non CCs...but after being here for a few months I have heard of just about everything.[/quote]

Oh yes, it has nothing to do with Cuban or non-Cuban cigars at all.

I've seen this done on a number of cigars, even Padron Millenniums

Depends if the OR is different from future production (band, shape, etc).

I always ask to see a box too.  If they got them from someone else, then I am pretty hesitant.

[quote author=moki link=topic=10618.msg57913#msg57913 date=1313710773]
Here's my answer:

[url=http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58587]http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58587[/url]

Make sure you read up to the end of the second page... that's when the fun starts.
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Heh! Granola smoothie! Kills me every time I read it. :rotf:

Great thread Thanks
I learned a lot from this one, for one I have a love for tubos and often separate them from the cardboard boxes for space reasons. I am now writing the box codes on the individual three packs which I didn't do before.

Thanks lots of good info here!

The color of cello and bands are VERY subjective in my limited experience.  A lot of it has to do with storage conditions.  For example, my storage system is nothing more than large plastic bins with rH beads.  For whatever reason, cello tends to yellow fairly quickly in there, even certain bands seem to do so (Liga Privada among them).  I'm not talking banana yellow here, just a slight discoloration after only a year or so, but very noticeable after 2 years.  

I have a friend with an Aristocrat and some fancy climate control system, and he had cigars that were 5, 6, and 9 years old and the cello looked practically clear in many cases.  it was very interesting to me.  I have a friend with a walk-in and he said his cello doesn't yellow as fast as mine either.  I just got a box of Fuentes from a raffle, and based on how the cello looked (comparing to my own stock) I thought they were probably 3/4-years-old ... turns out they are 8-years-old!

I guess I'm just saying that such things are subjective and dependent on storage conditions, and perhaps other things as well.  Plus, as others have said someone could always re-use old yellow cello and even re-band.  Basically, I think you're taking a big risk unless you know the guy well.  The ones I bought were basically sold for MSRP + tax, so it really wasn't a risk anyway, which is why I did it.  But I got lucky, since these are definitely of the well-aged variety (aged Opus and Anejo are very special cigars, imvho).

[quote author=njstone link=topic=10618.msg58373#msg58373 date=1314496263]
The color of cello and bands are VERY subjective in my limited experience.  A lot of it has to do with storage conditions.  For example, my storage system is nothing more than large plastic bins with rH beads.  For whatever reason, cello tends to yellow fairly quickly in there, even certain bands seem to do so (Liga Privada among them).  I'm not talking banana yellow here, just a slight discoloration after only a year or so, but very noticeable after 2 years. [/quote]

Too much light maybe?