Blind Sampler? Please...

[canadianbeaver]

A few weeks ago I bought one of those samplers for $30 on another board... it was not blind but close. Could not resist, I guess. I am now giving them out to the mailman, garbage man, neighbor's gardener, whoever.

Same thing with a "5 cigar blind pass" on the Canadian group on Puff.com. We were to put white bands over the real ones, but Matthew took them off when they arrived because he did not understand why they were there. ;D

Just buying the best sticks I can afford and liking them.

A note... the member doing this is no schmuck, he is a respected guy in the community so points for that!

CB

[TMS]

So you expected something good from a $30 sampler? Was it more than 2 cigars?

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A few weeks ago I bought one of those samplers for $30 on another board... it was not blind but close. Could not resist, I guess. I am now giving them out to the mailman, garbage man, neighbor's gardener, whoever.

Same thing with a "5 cigar blind pass" on the Canadian group on Puff.com. We were to put white bands over the real ones, but Matthew took them off when they arrived because he did not understand why they were there. ;D

Just buying the best sticks I can afford and liking them.

CB


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[canadianbeaver]

Like I said, I am giving them out to the handsome guys on my street   :cheers:

Since then I am only buying what I should.

CB

[Knuck42]

[quote]Sure, but if one doesn't know the difference between a Boli Corona Extra and a Cohiba Sublime Extra besides that they have different names, than what difference does it make?[/quote]How does the noob's depth of knowledge factor into this at all?  Whether said Noob knows nothing or enough to know the later of your examples is far more valuable then the former, the "blindness" changes not a thing.  As I see it the only reason(s) to do blind smaplers/grab-bags are either A) Laziness,(Don't feel like listing what you're selling in detail, or B) You hope to get more for the package then it is worth and stand a better chance of accomplishing this without disclosing to the buyer ahead of time what the package consists of.   

[canadianbeaver]

Inevitably the sales pitch always comes down to
a. "cleaning out my humidor"
b. "making room for new stock/sticks"
c. " blind pass"
d. " doing the brothers the kindness brothers have done to me".

Taking a leap here but I think this is bs for
a. "I hated these but now they are your problem"
b. "my store shelves need cleaning"
c "my wife said clean up your office"

Just sayin'.

CB

[Knuck42]

D.  Put together a pack of shitty construction sticks

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[quote author=canadianbeaver link=topic=9602.msg53154#msg53154 date=1306441968]
Inevitably the sales pitch always comes down to
a. "cleaning out my humidor"
b. "making room for new stock/sticks"
c. " blind pass"
d. " doing the brothers the kindness brothers have done to me".

Taking a leap here but I think this is bs for
a. "I hated these but now they are your problem"
b. "my store shelves need cleaning"
c "my wife said clean up your office"

Just sayin'.

CB
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I never used a sales pitch and for the most part the cigars I sold are the cigars I smoke.  When I have sold grab bags they have been filled with EL's, RE's, Cohiba (various), Monte 2's, Connie 1's etc.   So be careful when you paint with such a broad brush.  Also, why do people really care what the "sales pitch" is?  They are the seller's cigars and they can do with them as they please and it's no business to the buyer to know why they are being sold.  The amazing thing about the marketplace is no one forces you to buy something if you don't want to.  

I'm not quite sure how a "Blind Pass" has any relevance to this conversation.  I have been involved in numerous passes and not once was selling involved, hence the word "Pass."  Passes are a great way to try new cigars that you might have or will see again.  For those of you out there who haven't been part of a pass you should look into joining one with reputable members.  

There is nothing wrong selling a box of cigars you don't like to someone else.  I have never been a huge Cohiba Lancero fan, so if I had a box to sell I would probably do so.  Because I am not that big of fan of CoLa's does that mean I have committed some sales sin by selling a box I didn't like?  Furthermore, I have purchased a great deal of cigars from people who say, "eh these just aren't my thing" and that's fine with me, because I know what I like.  Now if someone is selling a box of cigars that have expired and that is the reason they don't like them, then I have a problem with that sale.  

[canadianbeaver]

You are absolutely right, but it would be helpful and more credible to add details to the trade. I bought into one, the price was too low, the brands were crap and I am now the most generous cigar cougar in north Toronto.

Sorry to paint the process with such a broad brush, pardon the pun.

This board does not seem to be as open to the grab bag/blind sampler as the other boards without more details.

Cheers,

CB

PS I will happily buy your CoLas but please leave out the word "hence" in your ad. :boty:

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How is listing a grab bag of Cuban cigars any less credible than selling a single box?  You still aren't 100% sure that box is legit (unless pics, box codes are offered), and it would be ALOT harder to package up 15-20 bogus CC's and sell them as the real deal.  As we have seen on OLH and (perhaps) currently on ICC, just because you give the marcas and vitolas, it doesn't mean you are getting the real thing.

The seller is taking a huge risk by making sure you're happy with the purchase.  The buyer can leave negative feedback which can kill future sales and then the seller might be inclined to give a refund and be out the shipping costs and time it took to pack them up. I know in my dealings with packing blind buy, I sat there with cigars all over the floor, choosing wisely and trying to get a broad array.

It's sad that you bought into a bad sale, and I would recommend taking a chance again with a seller who has good feedback and results. 

I have actually had more success on this board doing blind sales.  I have probably sold close to 40-50 box and blind bags over the past two years.  In my experiences, the blind sales went quicker than did full box sales.

[canadianbeaver]

The cigars were cheap NC's, not at risk of being low quality Cubans. They could have been brand new from the store and they still would have been not good enough for me now.

I see by your feedback that this is your specialty and I am not the one to get into this pi$$ing match with you. I did not start this thread.

Good luck and happy selling/trading.

CB