Don't hold back darlin'

[Bigjohnshea]

[quote author=nick2021 link=topic=45784.msg184021#msg184021 date=1538958461]
Todd, business must be slow elsewhere for John to make his only 3 posts in a  2 month old political thread lmao....
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What’s the matter Nick, no real content to contribute to the discussion? Or maybe you voted for Trump, and avoiding the whole topic by joking about me is your way of dealing with the fact that you voted for the worst human being on Earth, and you regret it...?

I like discussing and ranting about politics. Is that okay with you or do I need an admins permission?  ;)

[Bigjohnshea]

[quote author=vinnyvega link=topic=45784.msg184022#msg184022 date=1538960711]
I like where this is going.

Big john, do you think bill and Hillary still fuck?
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Absolutely not... And neither do Trump and his mail order pornstar bride. Melania can’t even stand to touch the guy, as is evident on many videos of her slapping his hand away. I can’t blame her... She’s probably worried she’ll turn orange.  ;)

[tksamtec]

Sounds like someone isn't over an election loss, 2 years ago... join the club (the one that I am not part of)...

:nana:

[ChefBoyRG54]

[quote author=Bigjohnshea link=topic=45784.msg184026#msg184026 date=1538981921]
What’s the matter Nick, no real content to contribute to the discussion? Or maybe you voted for Trump, and avoiding the whole topic by joking about me is your way of dealing with the fact that you voted for the worst human being on Earth, and you regret it...?

I like discussing and ranting about politics. Is that okay with you or do I need an admins permission?  ;)

[/quote]

Sounds like you rolled out your Jump to Conclusions mat a little early
Nice to see another savory member getting involved!

[Bigjohnshea]

[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=45784.msg184028#msg184028 date=1539002728]
Sounds like someone isn't over an election loss, 2 years ago... join the club (the one that I am not part of)...

:nana:
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Sounds like you are happy having a serial molester in the White House. Speaks volumes about you... I’m not. Hence my vocal stance against Trump.

[Bigjohnshea]

[quote author=ChefBoyRG54 link=topic=45784.msg184033#msg184033 date=1539011514]
Sounds like you rolled out your Jump to Conclusions mat a little early
Nice to see another savory member getting involved!
[/quote]

Those were both questions actually, not conclusions.

Dictionary. Try it out...  ;)

[tksamtec]

[quote author=Bigjohnshea link=topic=45784.msg184037#msg184037 date=1539015057]
Sounds like you are happy having a serial molester in the White House. Speaks volumes about you... I’m not. Hence my vocal stance against Trump.
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I am not happy about how he acts as a person or what he as done from a personal standpoint.... but I am happy about his accomplishments thus far in office, and what he has done to stimulate the economy and get the jobless rate down.  ISIS was rampant under Obama, and they aren't in the news much anymore... it doesn't matter what media you are watching.

[mk05]

[quote author=Bigjohnshea link=topic=45784.msg184011#msg184011 date=1538927979]You ignored the most qualified Presidential candidate in history...
[/quote]False.

[Bigjohnshea]

[quote author=tksamtec link=topic=45784.msg184039#msg184039 date=1539015440]
I am not happy about how he acts as a person or what he as done from a personal standpoint.... but I am happy about his accomplishments thus far in office, and what he has done to stimulate the economy and get the jobless rate down.  ISIS was rampant under Obama, and they aren't in the news much anymore... it doesn't matter what media you are watching.


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I absolutely agree that the economy has grown since Trump took office, also that there are less unemployed since he took office, and that you should not like how he acts as a person. ;)

However, be honest with yourself and with reality... Unemployment was dropping steadily while Obama was in office and we were recovering from the great recession caused by deregulatory policies under the previous Republican administration. I do not necessarily credit Obama for that. I credit the economy in general for that. So in reality, can any of us truly say for certain that the same economic improvements which have happened under Trump in the last two years could not possibly have happened under any other president taking office amidst an obviously rebounding economy?

As for ISIS, what precisely has Trump done to change the standing of ISIS? The truth is ISIS exists as a force because W Bush invaded Iraq, and Obama gave the order to kill Bin Laden which created a void where Al-Qaeda used to be. We then dealt with years of terrorist actions as ISIS made themselves into what Al-Qaeda used to be. They filled the void during that time. It’s not Obama’s fault that that happened, and not W Bush’s fault either. It’s just a part of the eb and flow of power in that region. Obama advanced drone strikes as a counter terrorism methodology more than any other leader before him. What has Trump done?

Right now we have the following situations under Trump:
1) We are being lead into a trade war by a guy who has gone banrupt more than a dozen times. Is that not terrifying to anyone else?
2) We have taken steps to recreate trickle-down economics, which fails as a long term economic stratedy every single time we use it. Is that not terrifying to anyone else?
3) Popular opinion of our country is lower than any time in history, and if you think that doesn’t matter you’re wrong. It greatly effects our ability to work with other governments.
4) His pinnacle “achievement” thus far is sitting down with North Korea. I put “achievement” in quotes because the reality is all he has achieved there is legitimizing a dictator. North Korea is no closer to stopping their path towards becoming a nuclear power than they were before Trump, and they have promised it dozens of times to other leaders.

So, ask yourself this... Are any of these achievements so significant that it justifies having this orange clown as our President? Are they so significant that we should continue to tolerate his mindless rants, his immaturity, his vulgarity, his tendency to empower bigots, etc. Is this “progress” so significant that we should be happy having a president accused of molestation 12 times, and who has admitted to “grabbing women by the pussy” as a form of a greeting?

I believe that you know the answer is no. Any reasonable person knows that the answer is no...

[Bigjohnshea]

[quote author=mk05 link=topic=45784.msg184043#msg184043 date=1539023559]
False.
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Is it? Prominent political scientist Ellen Fitzpatrick agrees with me. Your support?