I too would trust a source shared on a forum before a search engine. But if I wasn't on a forum it looks like it would be pretty easy to get authentic cigars. I'm a member of a forum that discusses sources openly and from what I can see nearly every site that I got from Google I recognize as legitimate because of orders made by fellow members, etc.
That's not what I'm curious about myself. I'm curious why it's such taboo to talk about them openly? I've just never understood what the big deal is.
Sources?
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Cohim
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Pmoney
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Re: Sources?
[quote author=kingcohiba link=topic=28913.msg123666#msg123666 date=1409109143]
That's not what I'm curious about myself. I'm curious why it's such taboo to talk about them openly? I've just never understood what the big deal is.
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Isn't the big deal just that Cubans are illegal? :cop: You have to exercise discretion in this game! ;)
Actually I am talking out of my ass. I am a complete CC newb. Got a couple RASCC from a brother here, and they were pretty good, but I've never delved any further than that.
That's not what I'm curious about myself. I'm curious why it's such taboo to talk about them openly? I've just never understood what the big deal is.
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Isn't the big deal just that Cubans are illegal? :cop: You have to exercise discretion in this game! ;)
Actually I am talking out of my ass. I am a complete CC newb. Got a couple RASCC from a brother here, and they were pretty good, but I've never delved any further than that.
Matthew 10:32-42
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WadeFillingame
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Re: Sources?
Some of you seem to be pretty cavalier with the discussion of something that is a federal crime.
[url=http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/ccigar2.pdf][color=blue]Trade in Cuban goods is illegal for US citizens or residents. [/color][/url]
[size=8pt][i]Criminal penalties for violation of the Regulations range
up to $1,000,000 in fines for corporations, $250,000 for
individuals and up to 10 years in prison. Civil penalties
of up to $65,000 per violation may be imposed by OFAC.[/i] [/size]
I don't want discussion of where to buy cocaine or heroin here either. This is a US based website. I am in the US as are the servers. Yes it is the internet, and we have members from across the globe, but to discuss places to illegally purchase anything is just not acceptable.
Many of you haven't been around long enough to remember back in late '99 or just after '00 when someone who had been selling "ISOMs" (remember that term) got their computer seized and there were a bunch of people at CF running around like their hair was on fire trying to figure our how to do non-recoverable data wipes on their machines.
[url=http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/ccigar2.pdf][color=blue]Trade in Cuban goods is illegal for US citizens or residents. [/color][/url]
[size=8pt][i]Criminal penalties for violation of the Regulations range
up to $1,000,000 in fines for corporations, $250,000 for
individuals and up to 10 years in prison. Civil penalties
of up to $65,000 per violation may be imposed by OFAC.[/i] [/size]
I don't want discussion of where to buy cocaine or heroin here either. This is a US based website. I am in the US as are the servers. Yes it is the internet, and we have members from across the globe, but to discuss places to illegally purchase anything is just not acceptable.
Many of you haven't been around long enough to remember back in late '99 or just after '00 when someone who had been selling "ISOMs" (remember that term) got their computer seized and there were a bunch of people at CF running around like their hair was on fire trying to figure our how to do non-recoverable data wipes on their machines.
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Scott From NY
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Re: Sources?
[quote author=XTR link=topic=28913.msg123742#msg123742 date=1409229144]
Some of you seem to be pretty cavalier with the discussion of something that is a federal crime.
[url=http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/ccigar2.pdf][color=blue]Trade in Cuban goods is illegal for US citizens or residents. [/color][/url]
[size=8pt][i]Criminal penalties for violation of the Regulations range
up to $1,000,000 in fines for corporations, $250,000 for
individuals and up to 10 years in prison. Civil penalties
of up to $65,000 per violation may be imposed by OFAC.[/i] [/size]
I don't want discussion of where to buy cocaine or heroin here either. This is a US based website. I am in the US as are the servers. Yes it is the internet, and we have members from across the globe, but to discuss places to illegally purchase anything is just not acceptable.
Many of you haven't been around long enough to remember back in late '99 or just after '00 when someone who had been selling "ISOMs" (remember that term) got their computer seized and there were a bunch of people at CF running around like their hair was on fire trying to figure our how to do non-recoverable data wipes on their machines.
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WTF XTR, who do you think you are? What do you own this site or something? Oh wait...LOL
Keep in touch bro
Some of you seem to be pretty cavalier with the discussion of something that is a federal crime.
[url=http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Documents/ccigar2.pdf][color=blue]Trade in Cuban goods is illegal for US citizens or residents. [/color][/url]
[size=8pt][i]Criminal penalties for violation of the Regulations range
up to $1,000,000 in fines for corporations, $250,000 for
individuals and up to 10 years in prison. Civil penalties
of up to $65,000 per violation may be imposed by OFAC.[/i] [/size]
I don't want discussion of where to buy cocaine or heroin here either. This is a US based website. I am in the US as are the servers. Yes it is the internet, and we have members from across the globe, but to discuss places to illegally purchase anything is just not acceptable.
Many of you haven't been around long enough to remember back in late '99 or just after '00 when someone who had been selling "ISOMs" (remember that term) got their computer seized and there were a bunch of people at CF running around like their hair was on fire trying to figure our how to do non-recoverable data wipes on their machines.
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WTF XTR, who do you think you are? What do you own this site or something? Oh wait...LOL
Keep in touch bro
I'm not so young or impressionable anymore, but still younger than most of you old hags-LOL
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kingcohiba
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Re: Sources?
Yeah I suppose that makes some sense.
Probably a little safer to discuss them than sell them on a us server. With all due respect.
Probably a little safer to discuss them than sell them on a us server. With all due respect.
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Fshaw
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Re: Sources?
[quote author=kingcohiba link=topic=28913.msg123666#msg123666 date=1409109143]
That's not what I'm curious about myself. I'm curious why it's such taboo to talk about them openly? I've just never understood what the big deal is.
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Some of it may also be self-protection in another sense. Of the "major" (and I use that term very loosely) cigar boards that I can think of, without naming names, some of the reasons may be:
1) They are owned and branded by a publishing house that may not want to be seen as promoting trade in CCs
2) They are, themselves, a "source" and so why would you want to promote competition
3) They have "site sponsors" who provide some sort of benefit to the members, presumably for some sort of exclusivity to the membership thereof.
Just my .02, but that may have more to do with it than you think. Regarding here, Wade's house, Wade's rules, and I am happy to live by that motto.
That's not what I'm curious about myself. I'm curious why it's such taboo to talk about them openly? I've just never understood what the big deal is.
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Some of it may also be self-protection in another sense. Of the "major" (and I use that term very loosely) cigar boards that I can think of, without naming names, some of the reasons may be:
1) They are owned and branded by a publishing house that may not want to be seen as promoting trade in CCs
2) They are, themselves, a "source" and so why would you want to promote competition
3) They have "site sponsors" who provide some sort of benefit to the members, presumably for some sort of exclusivity to the membership thereof.
Just my .02, but that may have more to do with it than you think. Regarding here, Wade's house, Wade's rules, and I am happy to live by that motto.
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WadeFillingame
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Re: Sources?
For those who do buy from offshore sources there has been what appeared to be empirical evidence that open discussion on the internet resulted in seizures of incoming shipments from those locations.
Whether or not those seizures were in any way shape or form a consequence of the open discussion? Who knows. In general it keeps things more peaceful and the site sees less anger if you keep the discussion of what you can buy where off of the boards.
OLH nor I personally fall into any of the three categories above. At some point in the wayback OLH was actually sponsored by Cgars Ltd. in London, but that was a really long time ago. I haven't heard from Mitchell in a very long time.
Whether or not those seizures were in any way shape or form a consequence of the open discussion? Who knows. In general it keeps things more peaceful and the site sees less anger if you keep the discussion of what you can buy where off of the boards.
OLH nor I personally fall into any of the three categories above. At some point in the wayback OLH was actually sponsored by Cgars Ltd. in London, but that was a really long time ago. I haven't heard from Mitchell in a very long time.
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kingcohiba
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Re: Sources?
[quote author=Fshaw link=topic=28913.msg123753#msg123753 date=1409239144]
Some of it may also be self-protection in another sense. Of the "major" (and I use that term very loosely) cigar boards that I can think of, without naming names, some of the reasons may be:
1) They are owned and branded by a publishing house that may not want to be seen as promoting trade in CCs
2) They are, themselves, a "source" and so why would you want to promote competition
3) They have "site sponsors" who provide some sort of benefit to the members, presumably for some sort of exclusivity to the membership thereof.
Just my .02, but that may have more to do with it than you think. Regarding here, Wade's house, Wade's rules, and I am happy to live by that motto.
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understandable. i just always wondered what the big deal was. I am fairly new (about 5 years) to forums so like wade said, i am one of those who did not see the stuff that happened in the 90s.
and hopefully i didnt sound like i was trying to challenge the rules here as i wasnt.
Some of it may also be self-protection in another sense. Of the "major" (and I use that term very loosely) cigar boards that I can think of, without naming names, some of the reasons may be:
1) They are owned and branded by a publishing house that may not want to be seen as promoting trade in CCs
2) They are, themselves, a "source" and so why would you want to promote competition
3) They have "site sponsors" who provide some sort of benefit to the members, presumably for some sort of exclusivity to the membership thereof.
Just my .02, but that may have more to do with it than you think. Regarding here, Wade's house, Wade's rules, and I am happy to live by that motto.
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understandable. i just always wondered what the big deal was. I am fairly new (about 5 years) to forums so like wade said, i am one of those who did not see the stuff that happened in the 90s.
and hopefully i didnt sound like i was trying to challenge the rules here as i wasnt.
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Fshaw
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Re: Sources?
[quote author=XTR link=topic=28913.msg123761#msg123761 date=1409247178]
OLH nor I personally fall into any of the three categories above. At some point in the wayback OLH was actually sponsored by Cgars Ltd. in London, but that was a really long time ago. I haven't heard from Mitchell in a very long time.
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Apologies if my post came across wrong, I was not trying to imply that OLH fit into any of those categories above. Only offering suggestions as to why some other sites might ban it, as it does seem to be a ubiquitous aspect of public cigar forums (and in my opinion, rightly so).
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OLH nor I personally fall into any of the three categories above. At some point in the wayback OLH was actually sponsored by Cgars Ltd. in London, but that was a really long time ago. I haven't heard from Mitchell in a very long time.
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Apologies if my post came across wrong, I was not trying to imply that OLH fit into any of those categories above. Only offering suggestions as to why some other sites might ban it, as it does seem to be a ubiquitous aspect of public cigar forums (and in my opinion, rightly so).
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